Ryzen 7 9800X3D

[...] There are tons of people not paying the Nvidia tax because they have a plenty viable build with AMD. I built my current PC (9800x3D, 9060, 32gb DDR6) last April for about $1800. [...] Everything is more expensive except basically the PSU and case

32GB DDR5 RAM is around $500 which is comparable to to the 9800x3D. [...] Why are you comparing RAM prices to CPU prices? [...] Just 18 months ago, I bought 128 GB of DDR5 for only $480.

I rocked my Haswell i5 until last year when I built a brand new machine around the 9800x3d. [...]

[...] Basically I’ve had this same motherboard for something like 6 or 7 years and the performance difference between a Ryzen 1600 and 5600X3D is completely wild. [...] You might be able to buy an Intel chip with more cores and better productivity performance, but if you’re eyeing gaming performance like I imagine most desktop DIY builders are, you’d rather get better gaming oriented performance and sacrifice some productivity performance. If you are gaming and buy a 9800X3D, Intel literally doesn’t not make anything faster at any price. [...] At lower price points, AMD still ends up making a lot of sense for their long-supported sockets, low cost boards, better power/heat efficiency, and X3D chips performing well in gaming applications.

[...] You can run an (almost entirely) open stack on your hardware, and do so on an i9/9800X3D with 256GB RAM, 5080, and MultiTB of NVMe storage. But it doesn't realy matter for 95% of users, because the hardware is already way faster than they need and the bottlenecks are on the server side and on shitty software architecture. [...]

I used Gentoo since about 2012 up until 2022 then switched to Debian mainly because lot less things used to break during updates and my old CPU ( i7 4790k ) became a bit dated to compile every new version of Golang, Rust and Chromium - just hours and hours of brutal grind. Since flatpak can provide up to date versions of a lot of desktop software on Debian there is very little point switching back. Maybe one day if I get my hands on some ridiculously powerful CPU like 7800 or 9800X3D then might try it again.

[...] No issues with drivers, no issues with peripherals (Wired speakers, Bluetooth headset, usb headset, webcam), with 3 displays at different resolutions/framerates/orientations. Running Ryzen 9800x3d and an RTX 4070ti. [...]

Just want to say big fan of bazzite! Been running it on my 9800x3d / 9070 rig since April and I have very few complaints

Love bazzite on my 9070/9800x3d setup. Zero issues with a game yet. Played expedition 33 the day I built it a few months back!

[...] I thought at the time "this is an expensive mistake" but you look at the prices I paid for parts a year ago and it's mind-blowing eg: - 4TB Samsung Pro 990 SSD for $150 (now $940) - 64GB DDR kit for a laptop $180 (now $700) - 64GB DDR5 CL30 kit for a desktop $200 (now $950) - 9800X3D/5070Ti PC $1800 - 2TB Samsung Pro 990 $95 I think? I honestly don't even remember why I bought this It's really depressing now. [...] There certainly won't be a RAM increase this year and there'll likely be a price bump. [...] But I think this SSD/RAM price hike has basically killed the Steam Machine, which is sad. [...] We've seen an almost unprecedented price hike on the PS5, which is an almost 6 year old console at this point. [...] We've had RAM price spikes before, usually because of supply crunches (eg years ago I seem to remember a fire taking out one of the major suppliers). [...]

[...] Less if I wanted to do a complete rebuild myself but I'm over building PCs. [...] It was an expensive mistake as I bought a few options to experiment including a NUC and an M4 Mac Mini but eventually bought a 9800X3D 5070Ti PC for <$2 and for no reason in particular I bought a 64GB DDR5-6000 kit for $200 in August or so. [...] I do kind of want to take the parts I have and build another AM4 PC. [...] There's no way I'm going overboard and building a 128GB+ PC right now. [...]

I bought a PC in early 2021 IIRC. [...] This was an expensive mistake as I both looked into buying a replacement motherboard and CPU but that quickly gets to the price of a new PC. Paying someone to rebuild my PC is expensive and I'm beyond the age of wanting to fully remove a motherboard and effectively rebuild my entire PC myself. [...] But I also ended up buying a new 9800X3D PC with a 5070Ti. Like I said, it was an expensive mistake. [...] I also upgraded my laptop to 64GB for no readily apparent reason. [...]

[...] My RTX 4080 (9800X3D) struggles with 4K gaming.

Right… unfortunately my 9800x3d and 5090 setup can’t process a 15 year old desktop app transition in under a second even though they have a coding god making all their decisions hahah

Storage and memory prices are so outrageous that I'm "discovering" multiple old hard drives in my basement that I will be using for backups soon. I'm lucky that my son asked for a "gaming" machine for Christmas in 2024, so now we have a spare desktop with a 9800X3D and 64GB of ECC RAM which I'm hoping will last forever. [...] Because prices are so outrageous, we have to do heavy computations with limited memory and storage while maintaining privacy. So there's a lot to do here with software, including creating easy to use and verify privacy-enforcing computing environments for specific purposes, and writing computational software which is more efficient so that we are not beholden to "cloud providers". [...]

[...] That'd be interesting enough on its own, regardless of wattage (though that'd make it even more interesting), as my A19 device gives my overclocked 9800X3D a run for its money (and some losses) in single threaded workloads. Considering that's the only thing the 9800X3D is really targeting, it's impressive beyond just whether or not it does so with less power.

[...] Anyway, I just tested this out myself on my AMD Ryzen 9 9800x3d. [...]

[...] I do it on a 9800x3d. [...]

Instant for me but I have a beefy CPU Ryzen 9800X3D and some crazy nvme. And most important: no corporate spyware disguised as anti-virus, in this machine.

[...] Looking at 9800X3D, it seems like it's running in a similar range wrt TDP unless you really push the 9800X3D. [...] cpu governor is set to performance (no schedutil). No audible change in fan speed during heavy compilation or gaming (very silent humming), and i don't have any fans beside cheap intake, cpu and exhaust fans (1 each) + an excessive amount of dust.

I have the same rig as you minus watercooling, and I assume you have AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D? Anyway, it's my only PC now, I game, dev, run local models, edit photos, edit videos, all in Manjaro. [...] Seems equivalent to what I see online with people with a similar build on Windows. I run hyprland, seems to be the only wayland based keyboard-forward WM that has good nvidia support (and, allegedly, supports HDR, though I haven't got this working). [...]

I built a PC this year in a Meshroom S V2[1]. The NF-A14x25 G2 fans I used for the AIO didn't seem so expensive when I was spending $600 on RAM, and I was happy that they were available in black. [...] Good airflow with big, slow fans is working for me to cool a 9800X3D and a 5070 Ti quietly under load. [...]

Sorry but neither Linux or Windows lag to resize windows in any of my 4 machines. They range from old laptops to a Ryzen 7 9800X3D workstation. [...] I slapped KDE and there was no lag to be seen. [...]

I got lucky on the timing and got 9800X3D + 64GB DDR5 before prices increased. [...]

9800x3d + 9070 + 32gb ram so I’ve got horsepower. Though I’ve seen people have issues with the 9070 specifically

My amd ryzen 9 9800x3d with ASUS b850 motherboard whines like a mofo. [...]

[...] I decided to just rebuild the whole thing and update from scratch. So went crazy and bought a 9800X3D, purchased a ridiculous amount of DDR5 RAM (96GB, which matches my old machine’s DDR4 RAM quantity). [...]

[...] I have a 9800x3d, literally top of the line CPU with a crazy fast brand new NVMe SSD, and Win11 explorer takes a good 3 seconds from time to time to load any folder on my system. [...] There's some decent QoL like tabs and stuff like that, but I can't believe how fucking sluggish it is in regular operation, alongside all the other terrible changes M$ decided to make. [...]

[...] If I was building another on say the 9800X3D I'd go back to air - the AIO's only have a five year warranty so you need to replace them fairly often vs air where you just blast the dust off. [...]

[...] But I also had 0 issues getting bazzite going on my PC I built with an AMD 9800x3d/9070 working out the gate. I played expedition 33 the day I finished building! [...]

Nobody tell my machine that. I have a 5080 paired with an 9800X3D, no blacklisting of kernel modules necessary (for me at least).

Memory bandwidth/latency is helpful in certain scenarios, but it can be easily oversold in the performance portion of the story. [...] For most day to day user workloads the performance difference from memory bandwidth/latency is the "nil to some" though. Meanwhile the AI Max+ 395 has at least twice the bandwidth + same number of cores and comes to more like a 15% loss on single and 30% loss on multithread due to other "traditional" reasons for performance difference. [...] For a hard number the iPhone 17 Pro Max is supposed to be around 76 GB/s, yet my iPhone 17 Pro Max has a higher PassMark single core performance score than my 9800X3D with larger L3 cache and RAM operating at 100 GB/s. [...]

10 was probably the last truly inefficient, but you shouldn't be having problems with a 40. Shame you don't have it around anymore, because I'd say set your desktop to like, native res, 60hz, only have one monitor installed, 8 bit SDR not 10 bit SDR, and see if the power usage goes away. Like, on a 9800x3D /w 7900XTX with my 4th monitor unplugged (to get under the maximum super-idle load for the GPU), I'm sub-50W idle.

I've had all AaAMD builds last 2 systems and love them. Just upgraded to a Ryzen 7 9800X3d and RX 9070 XT

Totally forgot to post it here, but I got a new PC a week ago. Ryzen 7 9800X3D MSI Vanguard RTX 5070 Ti G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 32GB DDR5-6000 MSI X670E Mobo WD Black SN770 500GB SSD for OS WD Black SN850X 4TB SSD Primary Storage.

I GOT IT!!! I GOT IT!!! I GOT IT!!! I GOT THE AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D!!!

The 9800X3D iGPU is definitely handy in some situations, but I tried using it with a 4K wayland desktop for a little while and the performance is really not good enough just for that, unless you're OK with some sub-60hz redraw. [...]

I bought a prebuilt mid-2025: 32GB DDR5-6000, 2TB SSD, 9800X3D, 5070 Ti for $1900. This happened to be good timing but you can still get these specs for a similar price occasionally eg [1] was $1899 last week. Luckily for me I bought a DDR5-6000 64GB kit for $200 for no real reason. [...] If you're building your own PC, your best bet is to buy a bundle. [...] Alos, I hear people say "it only takes an hour to build a PC". [...]

[...] A few recent examples of games I've tried: - Borderlands 4 was basically unplayable on my hardware (9800 X3D, 3080 TI) - though I didn't care enough to try and fix it. - Dune Awakening was decent, but noticeably less performant, stuttery, etc. [...] - ARC Raiders runs fantastic - but even still, it had noticeable visual issues particularly with shadows General issues: - It seems to vary by desktop environment how confused steam and/or the games were as to which monitor to play the game on - Steam itself required some futzing to get big picture to use hardware rendering (software rendering is very laggy) - Multiple games seemed confused what my native resolution was - Mouse issues with multi-monitor setup in several games (though sometimes this is an issue in windows too)

I am a longtime Windows user and it brings me absolutely no joy to report that the M4 I am forced to use for work runs the Rust compiler a good bit faster than the big fancy gaming PC I just got with a 9800X3D.

[...] I have a power-hungry GPU (3080) and CPU (9800X3D). All my audio equipment was on the same UPS (and therefore outlet) as my gaming PC. The result is that any time a particularly stressful game would be open, I'd get buzzing in the speakers. (Especially if the framerate was at 360) If you ask audiophiles online they will swear up and down that a cheater plug, balanced cables, or optical isolation will fix it - that will not fix it. [...] I temporarily got a double-conversion UPS (converts AC to DC to AC again) and housed the audio equipment on that instead (separate from PC) Lo-and-behold the noise was completely gone. However, those UPS are extremely expensive, and far worse they're very loud because the fans run constantly. [...] Just get a power strip and plug all the audio equipment into that on a different outlet. [...]

I feel badly for all of the people who may have held off on a 9800X3D purchase because of this Passmark that we thought wouldn't work. I'm considering a new build soon, but RAM prices are out of control, like they've more than doubled since June! (Damn AI bubble...) I guess I'll have to get by with my Ryzen 1800X a bit longer.

[...] Worse yet, 8 KHz eats the kernel with interrupts (even on my 9800X3D) instead of letting the game run as fast as possible. High refresh rate monitors are great, yes, but those are still sub KHz - you're talking about polling a mouse at 13x the rate of the highest end esports monitors as some minimum bar for when a machine can be for gaming - get out of here with that kind of artificial gatekeeping. [...]

[...] I almost considered having my 9800x3D's IGPU service the trio of 60hz monitors, but its like an extra 10-15W to enable the media engine and run enough shader to run WDDM... where my 9800x3D can reach (but not cross) 80c on particularly well optimized code under a NH-D15 G2 LBC, I don't really want to throw another 15W at that.

[...] Does the 9800X3D have a wider pipeline or is it some other microarchitectural feature that makes it faster?

For the CPU AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D mentioned in the repo, just reading 100 bytes from RAM to L1 should take 100 nanos. [...]

[...] On the Ryzen 7 9800X3D for example, a single core is limited to about 64GB/sec. [...]