PinePhone

I bought a PinePhone when it first came out, and unfortunately the experience was terrible. I desperately want a phone with enhanced privacy features, such as a switch for the camera and a removable battery, but sadly I don't think this is ever going to happen. Some companies have tried, buy none of the bigger companies will ever bring these features to the market.

then other sensors which have been demonstrated to be able to capture audio can't be trusted, either, and in many demonstrations some of those sensors have been shown to be capable of recording what is effectively audio. [...] Sensors are much harder to use as microphones. [...] Sensors are also switched off on Librem 5 by the three kill switches: If you think the kernels in well-maintained Debian and Fedora VMs still need to be separated by a hypervisor to be trustworthy, you're in for a bad time trying to run that kernel on a PinePhone. [...]

[...] The PinePhone Pro wasn't a compromise, it was unusable. The Pro version had a very small developer community and thus quite undeveloped software. [...]

[...] My phone will be a Linux-based PinePhone. I'm done with these fucking billionaires and how their using the money that WE GIVE THEM. [...] Linux PinePhone FuckGates BoycottMS

[...] I would consider the PinePhone, but my experience with it left me cold. And they EoL'd the Pro and the original PinePhone is fairly anemic by modern standards. [...] My memory was the PinePhone also had some land-mines with respect to drivers, but it's been several years since I touched mine, so I could be mistaken. [...] I really dislike writing drivers from scratch.

[...] I love Fairphone's mission and hope they succeed but indeed it is very difficult to justify spending that much on a phone with those specs, particularly when the company is young and so its promises of replacement parts, extended updates, etc, are difficult to assess. I have played around a bit with pmOS, originally on an early Pinephone (the "Braveheart" model, which was plagued with hardware issues) and more recently on an ASUS MeMO Pad 7 (which at the time was in the "Community" support category but appears to have since been archived by pmOS). Even on devices where it "works", it tends to be slow, buggy, very heavy on battery and some peripherals like GPS and camera very rarely work. This is absolutely not intended as criticism of the Fairphone, Pinephone or pmOS teams - on the contrary they are doing fantastic and important work. [...]

[...] i used it on my pinephone daily for at least a year: it does everything you'd want and does it fast. [...] so you're either stuck using the prebuilt releases without any means to patch/improve the software, or if you do want to make improvements then it's a full-time job to keep the package in a buildable state. in the end that was too much work for me and i switched to Foliate: it's noticeably slower (webkitgtk) and lacking, but it's way simpler to develop on. maybe they've improved the build system in the last couple years, though a quick peek shows that the nixpkgs expression is still using the binary release. if it becomes practical to build from source in the future i will 100% switch back to it.

Their entire post regarding pinephones is accurate. I never mentioned Pinephones, although I do believe that the attack on them is still too harsh. [...] Especially if you only use software from the official repositories. [...] A kill switch cutting off mics and not sensors or speakers is incomplete and privacy theater. [...]

[...] Maybe what I want is just something that doesn’t exist.

Really no i want someone to cover what happened to the astro slide and the downfall of planet computers. i had the pinephone pro and hardware was just outdated, it was a great device to tinker with and distro hop on. astro slide promised dual booting os's mobile linux and android it said it was 5g but good luck getting that unless it was 5g(hz wifi) and kinds of other false promises and many backers left with no phone or refund.

[...] It was probably just slow on the pinephone. [...] It is sorta expensive and weak but is the most capable. [...]

[...] Well, I did buy the PinePhone Braveheart edition a few years ago, but never did much with it. I keep an eye on the PinePhone Pro and PineNote in particular, these could be fantastic but it seems the software ecosystem is quite slow to develop. What I like about Pine64 is that they go for low price points. Most of their products seems to be priced in line with low- or mid-end proprietary alternatives. Yes you can still complain about the hardware you get for what you pay but IMO for this kind of stuff, it's better to have an accessible price point and limited hardware than to charge a premium price for mid-range hardware that is still limited by experimental software support.

"I have a PinePhone with phosh, which is neither Android nor iOS — where can I get the app?" Obviously, it still won't get you anywhere except maybe hasten the return as it is not compatible to your environment.

As much as I love PinePhone, someone should make a ready-to-go GNU Linux mobile OS using ChromiumOS as the platform. Heck, I'd love to see fyde Technologies made a mobile version of fydeOS.

I bought a pinephone but the battery consumption was just terrible

Imagine being on hacker news and having an iPhone instead of a Pinephone /jk. I'm always annoyed when some real-world good or service is only available to people with a smartphone, especially when it wasn't always so. Blue Bikes (rentable bicycles) were in the past usable with a membership card, but it got phased out in favour of an app.

I had a pinephone and switched from phosh to plasma-mobile. The hardware was very limited but with plasma it was much much better at least.

I gave up on the pinephone about 6 months after the pinephone pro came out, and i realized that all the distros were dropping debugging/development over to the pro... basically the pinephone is no further along than it was then. pinephone pro is not a big enough jump to make me move to it.

[...] It has good driver suppport on linux as this is the same modem that's in the pinephone. [...] It also gives you GPS. [...] I bought mine off of aliexpress and also bought the LTE antennas. You need a separate antenna for GPS as well. [...]

I've paid 200€ for my PinePhone. [...] Messenger apps are a bit tricky; I'll probably end up hosting my own matrix homeserver and then have bridges running for Signal and the likes.

Now that Fairphone officially sells phones in the United States, I am likely going to get one specifically because it supports postmarketOS. My Pinephone is so slow that I have never really used it for anything beyond testing.

The PinePhone website is all jacked up, filled my cart went to checkout could not complete the sale because it could not figure out shipping cost to my address, tried contact support, email rejected, tried chat link chat does not work, click on other support link and got a page full of WARNINGS advising not to proceed to the page because it was unsafe, scam, hackers, etc. [...]

Compilers will convert mul/div to shifts, if they notice one of the operands is a power of 2. I would have included a link to an example on compiler explorer ( but the source editor didn't work on my Pinephone for some reason..