Apple·smart speaker
HomePod mini
Based on 49 credible posts from Bluesky & Hacker News. 9 filtered out as bot-like or off-topic.
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Scored September 27, 2026
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Owner reviews
Overall owner mood
Owners are split: 47% of 49 reviews are positive, 20% negative, and the rest mixed or neutral. Praise centers on sound. The most common complaint is software & ai (9 owners). Owners with 6+ months of use are less positive (33%), which suggests it wears on people over time.
What owners like
Sound praised by 5 owners
“Meanwhile you can get a good Bluetooth STEREO speaker for $27.”
What owners complain about
Software & AI raised by 9 owners
“I was complaining about it elsewhere on this page, but WatchOS 10 seems to have done something awful to raise-to-speak's accuracy -- hopefully it's a bug that they'll promptly fix.”
Connectivity raised by 6 owners
“it keeps disconnecting from the wifi...”
Sound raised by 4 owners
“Their products (that ugly-ass Ultra watch and tiny bass-free the product, for example) and nag-filled no-privacy UX have taken a hit and will continue to do so.”
Battery & charging raised by 3 owners
“I’m surprised they haven’t figured out a way to charge something for FaceTime yet.”
What owners talk about
- Software & AI4 praise · 9 complain
- Sound5 praise · 4 complain
- Connectivity2 praise · 6 complain
- Controls & input1 praise · 2 complain
- Battery & charging0 praise · 3 complain
- Camera1 praise · 1 complain
- Price & value1 praise · 1 complain
- Performance0 praise · 2 complain
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My whole family uses Siri—both through our phones and through the HomePod mini in the kitchen—to add items to the shopping list. Siri occasionally misunderstands the name of the item, or needs to ask who's speaking (when on the HomePod), or has trouble because the phone of the person asking has briefly dropped off the Wifi, but in the 5 years we've had it, I can count on one hand the number of times adding has just failed with any pattern remotely like what you describe.
Same transition some years ago. Siri is noticeably much, much worse to me. Borderline hopeless on a mixture of HomePod + HomePod Mini hardware.
It usually does fine but I don’t usually tax it too much. Last year I got my HomePod Mini to call 911 and it probably saved my life. Or at least several hours of misery
I've had a Sonos system going back 10 years now. I started with 6 or 7 speakers and now it is at 15 [9 zones] Sonos speakers and 12 HomePods [6 pairs]. [...] But have received some discounts on new speakers - Unifi network & Sonosnet issues with STP. Mostly solved by disabling Sonosnet - Sonos Roam speakers failing While having occasional issues with the new app design, it hasn't impacted much on a day to day basis. [...] For playing whole home audio, I generally use Airplay integration and just group the speakers through AppleTV or iPad. [...] The value I receive from each: - Sonos supports surround sound, whereas the HomePods do not. - Sonos is tied into home automation and some custom TTS announcements - Sonos Amp works with outdoor speakers and can update the speakers - The HomePod minis are small and less intrusive in certain areas of the home - HomePods have access to Siri and home control At one point I had several Echo devices, but it was annoying to constantly update that system for home automation integration. [...] I never use bluetooth, nor felt it is a missing feature of my Sonos system or HomePods.
[...] My dad had z-wave in his beach home 15 years ago (not exactly an early adopter, but it was pre-HomeKit and pre-influx of cheap wifi devices). Between flaky software/firmware, fear of network security, device incompatibilities, and the slow but steady enshitification of all the things, the industry has been a real let down. I have a Smartthings hub, 4 z-wave switches, 2 z-wave wall warts, a handful of Sonos speaker (pre-voice assistant models), 2 HomePod Minis, one old Echo mini, and an Apple TV. [...] Sadly, Sonos's software has been on a downward spiral for a few years now. [...] The HomePod Minis replaced a couple of Sonos in our bedroom (see above). [...]
siri was (still is?) shockingly inept when it specifically came to setting multiple timers, adjusting timer duration, cancelling timers, etc I'm keeping my fingers crossed that this Apple AI leap will bring us a less stupid Homepod Mini so I can throw away my Alexas. It's almost 4 years old with zero refreshes, still running on the S5 chip from Apple Watch 5. [...]
I had one of those Apple speakers (HomePod Mini) and the only other thing I ever did with it was speaker phone calls. It was really good that that. I ended up selling it for $50 or something.
My Matter over Thread stuff keeps occasionally falling over in Home Assistant and becoming unavailable, probably a router issue as I’m using a homepod mini but still endlessly frustrating.
[...] The HomeKit (via HomePod mini) is also super common. (HomePod Minis just have bad wifi and unreliable connections, there's something about their WiFi setup that's different from all other Apple products). [...] (the AirPods, for example, tend to go wherever 'most recent' sounds happen, but a lot of developers are unintentionally triggering conflicting behavior around this. [...] An email notification will sound an alarm, stealing AirPod focus away from your other device, but the sound effect will already be done playing by the time your AirPods connect, so to the user, it just seems like the AirPods switched devices for "no reason".) (HomeKit, for example, is supposed to support Eufy cameras. But Eufy cameras are garbage, despite having a large dedicated base station dock running 24/7, they can support only one small video stream to one single device, ever. So if you have two Eufy cameras installed, HomeKit will fail on the cameras constantly, but it's because of Eufy's basestation limitations, so it's not clear to me how Apple could 'fix' that) --- The more Apple moves outside of it's own internal ecosystem, the more complex the interactions get, and the less control Apple can feasibly exert over the product lifecycle, so the more it starts "Microsoft-ing" it's work. (We joke about Microsoft Copilot, but Apple has five different products all named Apple TV, the Apple TV (hardware device), Apple TV (the TV software
HomePod Mini is primarily a speaker you can AirPlay to which happens to have some basic voice control functionality. I'd really love them to be a bit more usable (in particular I want to be able to change the app it sends reminders to) but my experience has been that they're fine for music, timers, and basic smart home control.
[...] Its basically a sonos with siri I guess. [...] I'm a HomePod (mini) fan. [...] I use 2 as speakers for my TV, which sounds excellent compared to similarly-priced soundbars. Then, yea, it's got Siri for setting timers in the kitchen, can intercom to other rooms' HomePods, can recognize who's talking to do things like send / read text messages, set reminders, etc. [...]
I also got notification on my apple watch, while being away from the house, that the homepod mini heard our fire alarm going off. A call home let us know that our son had set it off learning to reverse-sear his steak.
[...] Someone mentioned AppleTV and HomePod mini. Newer Google Nest speakers/displays have it as well. But you can do it with just Home Assistant and a Thread radio: Personally, I pair my wifi and Thread matter devices to my Apple Home, as each Apple TV behaves as a redundant, ethernet connected gateway. I then do a secondary pairing to Home Assistant and Google Home. [...]
I’ll wager you have not listened to high-quality music or movies on a recent MacBook Pro. I’ve never heard a BT speaker of any size sound that good. (The HomePod Mini sounds quality really sucks by comparison, FWIW.)
I use HomePod Minis solely as Thread/Matter routers, as my home is set up very heavily with HomeKit. [...]
[...] Some cooler uses: - streaming HDR video from closed MacBook running Amphetamine to Vision Pro via Moonlink - Having a working HomePod mini in the hotel room. [...] It didn’t reject it outright but it throttled or nerfed it. [...]
Maybe it’s just because I’ve never used any Alexa devices, but I‘m very satisfied with my HomePod Mini which does the three things I ask it to do very well from the top of a kitchen cupboard: - Plays a selection of a particular musician’s work - Sets kitchen timers - Acts as a HomeKit hub
[...] Anything that's set up in HomeKit is directly accessible through Siri, and IME most smart-home devices these days support HomeKit, even if they have their own apps as well. So I don't need to have any app open, or my phone unlocked or even in my hand, in order to turn on and off the smart outlets I have in my house. (That said, I also have a HomePod mini, because not everyone in my house keeps their phone on their person at all times—plus it's a nice speaker for the kitchen.)
After disabling Apple Intelligence when you do the next mini update to 15.3.1 Apple intelligence is enabled Lemme list some of my recent nitpicks: I never used Bluetooth that much because I had no devices either for the phone or tablet, so I kept it disabled. But every major or minor iOS update was turning it on - I ofc understand that some devices may want to reconnect after update. But that doesn't explain why since v18.2.1 it suddenly stays disabled in my case on both devices after update's done. Then there's iOS ongoing conversation screen that never ever allows me to access springboard when I want e.g. [...] It just constantly pops up like on rubber-band and after few angry swipes, pressing the lock button back and forth finally lets me in. [...] And the control center changes in the latest iOS: these little widgets are stubborn, reorder themselves, can't change the size and tend to bug out to the point of flying "outside" the grid. [...] Yesterday I've got a homepod mini for all the plugs, switchers and so on. [...] After seeing the predatory tactics, dark patterns in last 2 Windows releases (I'll skip Google - because that's their default behavior for years) it seems that Apple too caught the trend. But also quality of the software overall isn't there anymore - no matter
I have HomePods gen 1 & 2 (and a few mini’s) I have mostly HomePod Mini pairs, and a couple individual Homepods. [...] Perhaps having a series of wired WiFi repeaters gives Homekit trouble, but nothing else has issues. [...] I still have (much less frequent) trouble casting to some random room's speakers. [...] Since "Zones" don't show up in the iOS and macOS volume/speaker-group interfaces at all, as far as I can tell. [...] Leave it up to users to care if two people are fighting over what plays in some joint room - it would be a problem that reflected editable zone definitions, not a bug. The whole system is inexplicably janky: by design, lack of original effort, subsequent inattention, and bug.
[...] I use it for HomeKit controls constantly, and love my HomePod mini's.
With a soon to be nonexistent middle class in the USA (as well as big growth in comparatively poor countries) getting Apple-style huge profits in the next 2-3 decades is going to be much more about getting $20-50/mo/user in perpetuity and less about selling premium price $1k-3k devices. [...] Apple is now existentially committed to recurring revenue like a crackhead loves crack. It was obvious to me when I bought a $1600 iPhone and within 5 minutes of setting it up it began nagging me for $5 for iCloud storage. [...] Their products (that ugly-ass Ultra watch and tiny bass-free Homepod mini, for example) and nag-filled no-privacy UX have taken a hit and will continue to do so. [...] I’m surprised they haven’t figured out a way to charge something for FaceTime yet. [...]
I do this on my HomePod mini all the time. [...] “Siri, add apples to my grocery list.” Boom, done. [...]
[...] I set all my relatives up with Apple HomePod Minis and HomeKit, which has expensive hardware (matter is supposed to fix that...) but is largely local and relatively private.
[...] Got HomePod mini and Apple TV for home. [...] All we have to do is to login with our accounts (Even this is easy since you do it through phone) I download shows/tv to my Mac, drag and drop to Apple TV app, they show up on the main TV over wifi. [...] I can put my phone on a stand, FaceTime with my family on the TV directly using my phone's camera and mic. [...] I can copy text on my phone, and just paste it in my laptop and vice versa. I can right click on my Mac to insert image from iPhone Camera. You can use your iPhone camera on
[...] I was complaining about it elsewhere on this page, but WatchOS 10 seems to have done something awful to raise-to-speak's accuracy -- hopefully it's a bug that they'll promptly fix. Most of my timer usage for cooking is actually with a HomePod mini that I have in my kitchen, which I've found to be very reliable for it. That said, in part it's because until this most recent round of OS updates it was the only Apple device that let you run multiple simultaneous timers, so I haven't had any chance to rebuild habits away from it yet. [...]
"Unplug your Homepod from Ethernet..." AI is useless as fuck and I own a posessed Homepod which randomly plays shitty music which isn't even mine. Homepod mini anyone? Otherwise it will go to the trash.
I bought a broken HomePod mini from eBay and repaired it. I feel very powerful
After yesterday's successful HomePod mini surgery, I bought a used one (not pictured) to put inside a Mario Talking Flower later this week
I found a HomePod mini when cleaning up this weekend. So I bought a second one to pair them in stereo... it's quite amazing to hear how good these sound when streaming from Apple Music in hi-res audio when working from home. [...]
enthusiastic IKEA Smart Home post No 43: I've had one of the dual button new IKEA smartphone switches for the weekend now. [...] HomePod mini or Apple TV or other brand similar devices. [...]
I bought what I thought was a Bluetooth speaker at an estate sale for $10, but it turns out it’s a HomePod mini. I’m not remotely interested in a smart home device, but I did figure out how to get it to play music, I think without “smartness”
so, on the minus side, my phone wasn't ready and i ended up waiting almost an extra hour; on the plus side, they gave me a free HomePod mini to make up for it, so ...winning?
Apple’s $99 HomePod mini isn’t even stereo. [...] Meanwhile you can get a good Bluetooth STEREO speaker for $27. [...] (And yes, I own two full-sized HomePods.)
I’ll admit I’m no audiophile and am firmly entrenched in the Cult of Jobs, but I do enjoy my Apple HomePod Mini. Handy for playing music via voice command or asking “Where’s my phone?” when I leave it someplace dumb.
ive had a homepod mini for only a month and i've had to reset it like 10 times... it keeps disconnecting from the wifi... i really hope its just because it doesnt like the dorm room wifi, and it'll behave better when i get my own place
On the other side being I needed to make some compromises with my life partner and we ended up buying a pair HomePod mini (because stereo was a hard line for me). They do sound pretty much ok for very discreet objects compared to tower speaker. I only occasionally rant when sound skip a beat because of WiFi or other smart-assery. (Nb: of course I never ever activated the smart assistant, I use them purely as speakers).
I’ve never been on the Spotify train, but with an all-Apple household, including HomePod Minis in multiple rooms, I’ve been stuck in iTunes/Apple Music land. [...] And I dutifully pay the $24.99 per year for iTunes Match so that I can tell Siri what to play on HomePods, but I will be 0% surprised when they deprecate that service. Anyone have a good non-Apple way of getting Siri to play songs from a personal music collection on HomePods? [...]
[...] I got a HomePod Mini to replace it and it’s fine. [...]
Yeah that's why I got homepod minis. Despite the fact that Siri is pretty useless and I hardly have other apple hardware. [...]
It’s an Apple HomePod mini, and I got it to experiment. Keep it unplugged most of the time.
[...] At a second home I have HA running on an RPi and also an Apple Homepod Mini (with Matter). I wish someone could explain to me how these two devices do (or do not) interact, and how I can get Apple Home on my iPhone to play nicely with HA both locally and (when I'm away) over Tailscale (so I can do remote operation of thermostats and a heat pump on wi-fi). [...]
During pandemic I started playing with smart home stuff and since I'm already within apple playgrounds I've got homepod mini since they stripped ipads from hub feature. After configuring the speaker I had apple music ad for about 3 months at the top of settings where ios software update notifications appears.
I have an Apple HomePod Mini (with Matter support), and HA with Homebridge, and every now and then I see evidence in HA of tighter integration. Not sure where it might all end up tho. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that some day it will magically become self-aware and make everything "just work".
Of course, while the ratgdo is indeed a local device, there’s still a large and obvious cloud dependency in my home automation setup: HomeKit itself. HomeKit works on the local network, it is per design not using “the cloud”. Only if you are not on your local network, it’ll use iCloud to communicate with a bridge (AppleTV / HomePod mini) that is on the local network.
[...] We have HomePod minis, Macs and iPhones/iPads in the house. [...] The drainage issues it causes. [...] We committed to never searching for mulch online (to hide from the ever-present surveillance online), never discussing it with anyone (to avoid social network effects), never buying it (no data broker can hoover up mulch purchases), not dwelling on any social media post about mulch (analytics, man, it's crazy what that bit of metadata can do)...not even hanging around the garden department of local stores (gotta avoid bluetooth/BLE/wifi tracking). [...]
[...] Thread radios exist in all of their Apple TVs and HomePod Minis and have for years. [...] The average Mac spews more information while connected to a regular Wi-Fi connection by default for mDNS/zeroconf. [...]
[...] In any case, I’m holding out for a HomePod mini refresh because if they throw a s9 chip in there it’s going to be able to do basic voice recognition offline Maybe matter can save Alexa/Google home and I’m too pessimistic but I don’t like how they work now.
Okay okay - I just realized I've got way too many plugs going behind the bench - I think I can declutter a bit by getting one of those fancy USB multi chargers. Mac M1 Pro Switch Canvas lamp HomePod mini Maybe an extra socket for my iPad, phone or other occasional chargers? Any recommendations?
HomePod mini long-term: how it holds up
When problems show up
- Software & AItypically around 5 years · 5 reports
- Connectivitytypically around 2.6 years · 2 reports
The claims, and the evidence
What the brand claims
No published claims on file for this product yet.
What owners report
“My whole family uses Siri—both through our phones and through the HomePod mini in the kitchen—to add items to the shopping list. Siri occasionally misunderstands the name of the item, or needs to ask who's speaking (when on the HomePod), or has trouble because the phone of the person asking has briefly dropped off the Wifi, but in the 5 years we've had it, I can count on one hand the number of times adding has just failed with any pattern remotely like what you describe.”
after 5 yearsView on Hacker News“It usually does fine but I don’t usually tax it too much. Last year I got my HomePod Mini to call 911 and it probably saved my life. Or at least several hours of misery”
after 1 yearView on Bluesky“Same transition some years ago. Siri is noticeably much, much worse to me. Borderline hopeless on a mixture of HomePod + HomePod Mini hardware.”
after 3 yearsView on Hacker News“I've had a Sonos system going back 10 years now. I started with 6 or 7 speakers and now it is at 15 [9 zones] Sonos speakers and 12 HomePods [6 pairs]. [...] But have received some discounts on new speakers - Unifi network & Sonosnet issues with STP. Mostly solved by disabling Sonosnet - Sonos Roam speakers failing While having occasional issues with the new app design, it hasn't impacted much on a day to day basis. [...] For playing whole home audio, I generally use Airplay integration and just group the speakers through AppleTV or iPad. [...] The value I receive from each: - Sonos supports surround sound, whereas the HomePods do not. - Sonos is tied into home automation and some custom TTS announcements - Sonos Amp works with outdoor speakers and can update the speakers - The HomePod minis are small and less intrusive in certain areas of the home - HomePods have access to Siri and home control At one point I had several Echo devices, but it was annoying to constantly update that system for home automation integration. [...] I never use bluetooth, nor felt it is a missing feature of my Sonos system or HomePods.”
after 10 yearsView on Hacker News
Common HomePod mini problems
Issues at least two owners independently report.
- Software & AI9 mentionsView on Hacker News
“After disabling Apple Intelligence when you do the next mini update to 15.3.1 Apple intelligence is enabled Lemme list some of my recent nitpicks: I never used Bluetooth that much because I had no devices either for the phone or tablet, so I kept it disabled. But every major or minor iOS update was turning it on - I ofc understand that some devices may want to reconnect after update. But that doesn't explain why since v18.2.1 it suddenly stays disabled in my case on both devices after update's done. Then there's iOS ongoing conversation screen that never ever allows me to access springboard when I want e.g. [...] It just constantly pops up like on rubber-band and after few angry swipes, pressing the lock button back and forth finally lets me in. [...] And the control center changes in the latest iOS: these little widgets are stubborn, reorder themselves, can't change the size and tend to bug out to the point of flying "outside" the grid. [...] Yesterday I've got a homepod mini for all the plugs, switchers and so on. [...] After seeing the predatory tactics, dark patterns in last 2 Windows releases (I'll skip Google - because that's their default behavior for years) it seems that Apple too caught the trend. But also quality of the software overall isn't there anymore - no matter”
- Connectivity6 mentionsView on Hacker News
“[...] The HomeKit (via HomePod mini) is also super common. (HomePod Minis just have bad wifi and unreliable connections, there's something about their WiFi setup that's different from all other Apple products). [...] (the AirPods, for example, tend to go wherever 'most recent' sounds happen, but a lot of developers are unintentionally triggering conflicting behavior around this. [...] An email notification will sound an alarm, stealing AirPod focus away from your other device, but the sound effect will already be done playing by the time your AirPods connect, so to the user, it just seems like the AirPods switched devices for "no reason".) (HomeKit, for example, is supposed to support Eufy cameras. But Eufy cameras are garbage, despite having a large dedicated base station dock running 24/7, they can support only one small video stream to one single device, ever. So if you have two Eufy cameras installed, HomeKit will fail on the cameras constantly, but it's because of Eufy's basestation limitations, so it's not clear to me how Apple could 'fix' that) --- The more Apple moves outside of it's own internal ecosystem, the more complex the interactions get, and the less control Apple can feasibly exert over the product lifecycle, so the more it starts "Microsoft-ing" it's work. (We joke about Microsoft Copilot, but Apple has five different products all named Apple TV, the Apple TV (hardware device), Apple TV (the TV software”
- Battery & charging3 mentionsView on Hacker News
“After disabling Apple Intelligence when you do the next mini update to 15.3.1 Apple intelligence is enabled Lemme list some of my recent nitpicks: I never used Bluetooth that much because I had no devices either for the phone or tablet, so I kept it disabled. But every major or minor iOS update was turning it on - I ofc understand that some devices may want to reconnect after update. But that doesn't explain why since v18.2.1 it suddenly stays disabled in my case on both devices after update's done. Then there's iOS ongoing conversation screen that never ever allows me to access springboard when I want e.g. [...] It just constantly pops up like on rubber-band and after few angry swipes, pressing the lock button back and forth finally lets me in. [...] And the control center changes in the latest iOS: these little widgets are stubborn, reorder themselves, can't change the size and tend to bug out to the point of flying "outside" the grid. [...] Yesterday I've got a homepod mini for all the plugs, switchers and so on. [...] After seeing the predatory tactics, dark patterns in last 2 Windows releases (I'll skip Google - because that's their default behavior for years) it seems that Apple too caught the trend. But also quality of the software overall isn't there anymore - no matter”
- Performance2 mentionsView on Hacker News
“[...] My dad had z-wave in his beach home 15 years ago (not exactly an early adopter, but it was pre-HomeKit and pre-influx of cheap wifi devices). Between flaky software/firmware, fear of network security, device incompatibilities, and the slow but steady enshitification of all the things, the industry has been a real let down. I have a Smartthings hub, 4 z-wave switches, 2 z-wave wall warts, a handful of Sonos speaker (pre-voice assistant models), 2 HomePod Minis, one old Echo mini, and an Apple TV. [...] Sadly, Sonos's software has been on a downward spiral for a few years now. [...] The HomePod Minis replaced a couple of Sonos in our bedroom (see above). [...]”
- Sound4 mentionsView on Hacker News
“[...] The HomeKit (via HomePod mini) is also super common. (HomePod Minis just have bad wifi and unreliable connections, there's something about their WiFi setup that's different from all other Apple products). [...] (the AirPods, for example, tend to go wherever 'most recent' sounds happen, but a lot of developers are unintentionally triggering conflicting behavior around this. [...] An email notification will sound an alarm, stealing AirPod focus away from your other device, but the sound effect will already be done playing by the time your AirPods connect, so to the user, it just seems like the AirPods switched devices for "no reason".) (HomeKit, for example, is supposed to support Eufy cameras. But Eufy cameras are garbage, despite having a large dedicated base station dock running 24/7, they can support only one small video stream to one single device, ever. So if you have two Eufy cameras installed, HomeKit will fail on the cameras constantly, but it's because of Eufy's basestation limitations, so it's not clear to me how Apple could 'fix' that) --- The more Apple moves outside of it's own internal ecosystem, the more complex the interactions get, and the less control Apple can feasibly exert over the product lifecycle, so the more it starts "Microsoft-ing" it's work. (We joke about Microsoft Copilot, but Apple has five different products all named Apple TV, the Apple TV (hardware device), Apple TV (the TV software”
- Controls & input2 mentionsView on Hacker News
“[...] The HomeKit (via HomePod mini) is also super common. (HomePod Minis just have bad wifi and unreliable connections, there's something about their WiFi setup that's different from all other Apple products). [...] (the AirPods, for example, tend to go wherever 'most recent' sounds happen, but a lot of developers are unintentionally triggering conflicting behavior around this. [...] An email notification will sound an alarm, stealing AirPod focus away from your other device, but the sound effect will already be done playing by the time your AirPods connect, so to the user, it just seems like the AirPods switched devices for "no reason".) (HomeKit, for example, is supposed to support Eufy cameras. But Eufy cameras are garbage, despite having a large dedicated base station dock running 24/7, they can support only one small video stream to one single device, ever. So if you have two Eufy cameras installed, HomeKit will fail on the cameras constantly, but it's because of Eufy's basestation limitations, so it's not clear to me how Apple could 'fix' that) --- The more Apple moves outside of it's own internal ecosystem, the more complex the interactions get, and the less control Apple can feasibly exert over the product lifecycle, so the more it starts "Microsoft-ing" it's work. (We joke about Microsoft Copilot, but Apple has five different products all named Apple TV, the Apple TV (hardware device), Apple TV (the TV software”