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Framework Laptop 16
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Scored November 11, 2026
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Owner reviews
Overall owner mood
Owners mostly like it, with reservations: 45% of 55 reviews are positive, 42% mixed, and only 13% negative. Praise centers on display and price & value. The most common complaint is controls & input (9 owners). Owners are divided on battery & charging and performance. Owners with 6+ months of use are more positive (58%), which suggests it holds up well.
What owners like
Display praised by 8 owners (4 disagree)
“The screen and all functions work perfectly.”
Price & value praised by 4 owners (1 disagree)
“I found it very cheap on eBay with a housing that still looked very minty.”
What owners complain about
Controls & input raised by 9 owners (4 disagree)
“The entire laptop rattles quite a lot when touched, and sometimes even when typing on it or using the keyboard.”
Build & durability raised by 6 owners (1 disagree)
“Size, build quality/sturdiness, thermals, and more are going to take a hit when you have the extreme level of repairability and modularity.”
Software & AI raised by 4 owners
“It sorta works, but it's a bit buggy, causing occasional screen artifacts.”
Sound raised by 4 owners (1 disagree)
“You don't even get an audio jack without taking up one of your expansion slots (edit: on the Framework 16.”
Owners are split on
- Battery & charging 4 like it · 6 don't
- Performance 2 like it · 3 don't
Worth reading the reviews on these if they matter to you.
What owners talk about
- Controls & input4 praise · 9 complain
- Display8 praise · 4 complain
- Battery & charging4 praise · 6 complain
- Build & durability1 praise · 6 complain
- Price & value4 praise · 1 complain
- Performance2 praise · 3 complain
- Sound1 praise · 4 complain
- Software & AI0 praise · 4 complain
Built from the reviews themselves — every quote links to the owner who wrote it.
Every credible owner review, most detailed first. Bots, off-topic comments, and ones that say nothing about using it are left out.
[...] 470 commits later I'm running 7 machines off this config — my Framework 16 dev workstation, a ThinkPad, and a bunch of business laptops for people who've never opened a terminal. [...] I use it for overnight refactoring. Custom NixOS installer ISOs — I ship a USB stick to someone, they plug it in, and they get a working system with Claude Code pre-configured as their "sysadmin." They ask Claude to install software, Claude edits the config, they rebuild. [...]
[...] Bought this Framework 16 laptop less than a year ago so I haven't upgraded anything yet. But if I decide I want a GPU (I don't play games on this laptop so I bought it GPU-less) I can add one. If they come out with a new motherboard that I decide is worth buying, I can swap it out and keep the rest of the laptop. [...] I bought a second USB-A slot and an Ethernet slot, so if I need two USB-A ports or if I need to plug into Ethernet, I can just slide the physical locking tab on the appropriate side of the laptop, slide out one of the slots, and slide in the Ethernet or USB-A slot. [...]
[...] I daily drive a VGA screen and a USB-A hub that connects my USB-A mouse and USB-A keyboard. [...] My charging cables are predominantly USB-A to micro, and nowadays I also need C for my phone. It's a bit annoying to need that extra C charging cable everywhere after we had already standardized on micro (except for Apple), but at least there's one standard now (xkcd.com/927) after the current devices die Edit: forgot the printer. [...] My laptop (bought this year) charges via a DC barrel jack, afaik because USB-C doesn't deliver enough power for peak usage. Buying a little HDMI-VGA converter was a lot cheaper than throwing a perfectly good screen away. My keyboard, mouse, and other peripherals also simply still work, seems silly to replace them just to get a C variant when 700-1300€ laptops have 1 or 2 C ports and always 2 A ports (I happen to be up-to-date on that, at least, because I helped someone select a new laptop ereyesterday) I don't know what I'd need more than one C port for but I'm very happy that there is more than one A port on my laptop. Add in the standard set of 3.5mm jack, HDMI, ethernet, card reader, and charging, and you're already at more ports than even the new Framework 16 can physically fit in its frame, let alone nerd ports like serial or a second ethernet port. I considered buying a double-priced Framework earlier this year for the linux support and upgradeability (I really support their goal and would pay that premium if it were a suitable system) but this is one of the main reasons it just doesn't work for me: I'm actually a power user that regularly uses these connections and more
Framework 16 owner here, had mine for a year and a half. [...] The only complaints here that I really share are the jankiness of the spacers (a little jarring at first, but now I’m used to it), and the speakers really are noticeably worse than any of my other devices. [...] PS: the battery life is by far the best of any laptop I’ve owned. Maybe that just shows that my previous ones were junk, but I’m quite happy with it PPS: I should note my employer was willing to buy it for me, so price was much less of a concern. [...]
[...] I have been using it for the last 2 years on my Framework laptop 16 without any issues. [...]
Yup, I’m on my second RGB ANSI on my Framework 16 and the [D] key just started getting spotty again, not even had the laptop for a year. I otherwise really like it, just wish there was a filter on the intake and that the keyboards worked reliably. [...] So I don’t think it’s just something like stick drift where the graphite starts to migrate after heavy use. [...] I don’t know if they’re stuck with a bad script or not human, but not kidding, the last time I had to prove the key was broken outside of Win10 because it’s not supported. [...]
I'm torn on your take, because on one hand I agree wholeheartedly (I own a Framework 13, and considered the repairability to be a part of the price, and a little added bulk to be a trade off I was comfortable with), but on the other, I think there's just some entirely-reasonable human psychology at work here that expects a €2k laptop to be premium in fit, finish, and polish. But I do think Framework still has a ways to go when it comes to polish and build quality. I've had my 13 since August 2022, and had a ton of problems with it (thermal issues) that were only resolved nearly two years later, after lots of frustrating back-and-forth with support. [...] And frankly, based on the author's description of the Framework 16, it sounds like the 16 is not even up to the 13's level of polish. [0] Well, we'll see what DRAM prices look like next year, as I have 64GB of DDR4 in my current laptop, and that same amount of DDR5 is not something I'd want to pay for right now.
I have a Framework 16 from one of the early batches (2023, think it was 1000usd). [...] I also suspect gunk will build up in these edges over time. [...] It's even at a slightly different height than the touchpad, which is probably more defect than intentional. [...] Can't say I've had issues with the spacers actually flexing or accumulating gunk though. [...] The display isn't terrible, but it's not great either. I had the chance to compare my framework (ips, 165hz, 2560x1600) with some newer laptops recently (3x oled, 2x ips). I was pretty impressed with the colors, very little difference compared to the OLEDs and much better than the shitty IPSs. Text was as sharp as the 3k OLEDs and sharper than the 2k OLEDs. But OLEDs (obviously) had the advantage for darker / high-contrast images. I didn't do any proper testing of battery usage, but it seems to be on par with other Linux capable laptops based on my usage thus far. This means you'll likely be looking at 6-8 hours of battery per charge for average programming usage. [...]
[...] Yours might differ and I'm glad about it because it means that this product reached its intended target TL;DR: The FW16 is a better computer, but the FW13 is a better laptop Long read: I've had a FrameWork 16 for over a year and a half now. [...] It's too large to comfortably fit in most laptop backpacks, too heavy and pointy to comfortably lug around all day. Even if the modular plates around the keyboard and trackpad are well made and in reality as solid as you would reasonably expect for a touchable surface, slights imperfections can make it uncomfortable when used as a laptop and give a (false) impression of flimsiness. [...] The screen is huge and comfortable and super smooth, but as it's docked, it just becomes a larger than average secondary screen. [...]
[...] It has a 15" screen. [...] The keyboard is centered. [...] (I do not use numeric keypads because I grew up with an 85-key XT keyboard that could have a numeric keypad, or cursor keys, but not both at once...and I chose cursor keys.) 4. [...] I often connect my laptop to other things. [...] I found it very cheap on eBay with a housing that still looked very minty. [...] CPU and RAM are maxed out (amusingly, the cheapest way I found to get the best CPU was to buy the whole bottom half of another T530 that already had one installed, so now I've got spare parts). The cheap third-party battery works for most of a workday in testing, and I've never run out when away from an outlet. [...] It's hard to find anything more-recent that meets these requirements, but maybe I'll be able to score a used Framework 16 or something at some point.
Luckily we’re getting some of the improvements as parts, since the one-piece touchpad for the FW16 is haptic. [...] Speakers don’t affect me that much tho since I’m a headphones user. Performance & battery life is already pretty good, since when I was on a 5-6hr flight I could debug & compile big C++ projects in VS2022 for the entire duration of the flight, and I still had battery life to spare when we landed (iirc about 20-30%?) It would also be nice/cool if there was a keyboard option that’s like what Dell used to have with their latitude laptops: image580×1183 165 KB
[...] You may have a reasonably good 48gb chunk assigned to the GPU, but that DDR5 is 5-10 times slower than GDDR/HBM and the GPU itself isn't stellar. [...] My Radeon W7900 answers a question ("what is this project") in 2 minutes, it takes my Framework 16 with 5070 addon around 11 minutes without the addon - around 23 (qwen 3.5 27b, claude code)
I do recommend even a half key number row and programmable keyboard layout to set up layers similar to Oryx (web interface, pictured below) on the ZSA Voyager keyboard. I’ve been using this ortholinear setup with my FW13 at home since I needed NKRO for learning stenography (which is a feature that the FW13 keyboard doesn’t have but the FW16 keyboard does). I use a layer to have mouse functionality on my keyboard so I don’t have to swap back and forth between my keyboard and my trackpad. [...] Screenshot from 2026-02-25 20-19-371505×979 83.7 KB IMG83401920×1440 519 KB
I’ve recently updated to BIOS 4.03 and in a previous thread, I stated FTR and FTH and stability the average TDP when fully loaded is now 42W, not the usual 54 ( I think the BIOS change logs said something about this ) regardless of whether I’m in power-save, balancedpower, balancedperformance or “performance”, performance profiles ( not often I use power-save now unless I’m on DC ). I’m assuming the PTM7958 from Framework is good Since 4.03 I’m now seeing 54W again The only difference I’m seeing between me and you is you have a dGPU hopefully the FTR/FTH issues are still gone too ( I’ve still not had any since BIOS 4.02 ) 52W, performance profile in the screenshot Screenshot202512311307552536×1528 305 KB I’m saying this for informational reasons My current system configuration is Framework 16 AMD Ryzen 7 7840HS using Radeon 780M ( no dGPU ) RAM/Memory: 128GB ( 2x64GB ) - Crucial 128GB Kit (64GBx2) DDR5-5600 NVME 2280: Western Digital SN850X 2TB - Firmware 620361WD NVME 2230: Western Digital SN770M 2TB - Firmware 731120WD BIOS: 4.03 Gentoo Linux 2.18 ( Linux 6.19-rc3 mainline PREEMPTRT, compiled by clang 21.1.8 march and mtune set to znver4 ) KDE Plasma 6.5.4 Wayland
[...] You don't even get an audio jack without taking up one of your expansion slots (edit: on the Framework 16. [...] If you're carrying any additional expansion cards with you you lose the only advantage it has over buying a hub, which can turn that one usb-c slot into multiple usb-a ports, ethernet, hdmi, audio, sd card reader, etc.
I have an M2 Max MBP for work and a Framework 16 for home. Build quality of the MBP is better. [...] The battery life is better, although to be fair, I run Linux on the Framework so the hardware itself isn't the only difference. The Framework 16 wins hands-down when it comes to ports, one of my biggest pain points with any Apple laptop in the last 10 years. [...]
[...] I own a Framework 16 (and am pretty happy with it), because I value repairability a lot. [...] Size, build quality/sturdiness, thermals, and more are going to take a hit when you have the extreme level of repairability and modularity. [...] Every choice is designed to tweak the design, aesthetics, battery life, etc. [...]
"Works on my machine!" is stupid when it comes to software running under an OS, because a userland program that is correct shouldn't work any differently from box to box. [...] I'm running a Framework Laptop 16 and it works just fine, no sleep issues. [...] Panel Self Refresh is broken in the AMDGPU driver. It sorta works, but it's a bit buggy, causing occasional screen artifacts. [...] The fingerprint reader is a little fidgety, and Linux could do a better job at laptop audio out of the box, but generally speaking the hardware works day in and day out. [...] For example, here's the Arch wiki regarding the Framework 16: It's fair to blame Linux for the faults it actually has, which are defini
Framework 13 yes, Framework 16 no. [...] The 16 right now has a design flaw where the performance and thermals degrade for a lot of users, as the liquid metal interface used is problematic. Framework is in the process of switching away from it to Honeywell PTM, and users affected by performance degradation will get a free PTM kit and a detailed guide to switch, so that is good. [...] The entire laptop rattles quite a lot when touched, and sometimes even when typing on it or using the keyboard. [...] The laptop makes scary creaking noises way more often than I am comfortable with, especially when lifting it up and opening / closing the lid. RMA'd the laptop for one whole month to get this issue fixed and the noise level only marginally improved. Sometimes, when clicking on the touchpad, you get an added layer of reverb to your click, especially if you are resting your palm on the palm rest, but not all the time, it comes and goes (possibly because the mid plate warps in response with the heat fluctuations?). As I tried to investigate this issue, I also found that, over time, my laptop chassis has bent itself quite a lot from use, causing the two front corners to be lifted up and their feet not touch
I just got a Framework 16 laptop and can't get it set up because it gives an error that the input module connector board is not detected. [...] The face plate for the touchpad isn't flush with the faceplate with the side panels, which is sort of annoying. It could be resolved by having the touchpad panel the full width of the laptop instead of having spacers. [...]
Framework Laptop 16 DIY Edition, Ryzen 7 7840HS, 64GB RAM, 1TB SSD, Black Bezel, black Spacers Condition: Very good. minor scratches shown in the photos. [...] The screen and all functions work perfectly. Specifications: Processor: AMD Ryzen 9 7940HS Graphics: none Memory: 64GB DDR5-5600 (2 × 32GB) Storage: 1TB Keyboard: International English linux Bezel: Black Spacers: 2 × black Battery: About 89% health, 70 charge cycles. Full charge capacity is 76,100 mWh against a design capacity of 85,001 mWh (from the Windows battery report). Included: Laptop with the configuration above Framework 60W power adapter with EU power cable (slightly scratched) Additional Expansion Bay Shell 2 × USB-C, 2 × USB-A, 1 × HDMI (3rd Gen), and 1 × MicroSD expansion cards, 1 × DisplayPort Framework screwdriver image500×281 27 KB 202610121255161517×1138 340 KB image1920×2560 714 KB image1920×1440 553 KB image1920×2560 903 KB image639×559 24.8 KB Note: This is a powerful machine, but it’s heavier than typical laptops, so it suits desk use better than travel. Price: About $2,200 USD Open to offers. [...] Photos: The first image shows the complete bundle: the closed laptop, the power adapter with its cable, the seven expansion cards, and the Framework screwdriver. The remaining photos show condition of laptop. Message me if you’re interested, and I can send more photos or details.
Device: I’m selling my fantastic Framework Laptop 16 DIY Edition (AMD Ryzen 7040 Series), featuring an orange bezel and Color Shift spacers. Processor: AMD Ryzen 9 7940HS Graphics: AMD Radeon RX 7700S Graphics Module Memory: 64GB DDR5-5600 (2 × 32GB) Storage: 2TB WDBLACK SN850X NVMe SSD, M.2 2280 Keyboard: International English Bezel: Orange Spacers: 2 × Color Shift Battery: Approximately 83% battery health with 63 charge cycles, according to the Windows battery report dated October 2, 2026. Full charge capacity is 70,713 mWh compared with a design capacity of 85,001 mWh. Included Parts: Laptop with the configuration listed above Framework 180W power adapter with EU power cable (it is a bit scratched) Additional Expansion Bay Shell 3 × USB-C Expansion Cards 2 × USB-A Expansion Cards 1 × HDMI Expansion Card, 3rd Gen 1 × MicroSD Expansion Card There is a small dent in the top cover (as shown in the picture) and minor scratches on the left side of the bottom cover. These are cosmetic only — the screen and all laptop functions work perfectly and is in a very good condition in my opinion. [...] Price (and accepted payment methods): €2,200 for the complete bundle. [...] Accepted payment methods: Bank transfer i EUR, Revolut (we can arrange something more comfortable if needed). Shipment option/shipment price: Shipping from Poland to EU countries, Local pickup in Wrocław, Poland. [...] Pictures of the actual laptop/parts: IMG33601920×1262 455 KB IMG33741920×1080 269 KB IMG33711920×1080 442 KB IMG33621920×1080 400 KB IMG33611920×1080 420 KB Feel free to send me a private message if you’re interested or would like additional photos or details! [...]
[...] I had a Dell Inspiron in 2004 that was worse in every way imaginable (made me swear off Dell forever) and was twice as thick as the Framework 16, with bit smaller screen, and heavier by far, and my point is I had to carry that in a bog standard messenger bag 15 miles in the snow uphill both ways every day and you kids today are spoiled with your macbook airs and get the hell off my lawn! [...]
There will always be more suspend/resume bugs to work through. [...] I feel it's necessary to paint the picture for people who are curious what it means for it to be a crapshoot, so indulge me while I share my experiences. [...] I also have a gen 1 Framework 16. I have seen it crash on suspend, but it is pretty rare, so I've just shrugged it off for now. [...] The current Linux model seems to be just dealing with whatever the vendors crap out for Windows, often full of weird ACPI behaviors and buggy firmware. [...]
[...] Didn't work immediately, but now you wouldn't tell that it was ever broken. I've managed to panic-order (€80) another keyboard though, so now I have a spare. For context a laptop keyboard is build like this: This problem is caused by the layers sticking together. In the case of the Framework 16 the "d" key sits on top of a foam pad which in turn is placed on top of a heat pipe, so this area gets particularly hot under load. [...] That being said for gaming I use an external keyboard now, because the one built-in is made by an external supplier and I don't think they'll start using a more heat-resistant material anytime soon.
PXL20260215194120491.MP1920×3413 810 KB i tried to take pictures of each pads but the pics looked to blurry i really dont think the connector is an issues. [...] Before even if my battery was at 100% the computer wouldn’t bootup. [...]
I also am a programmer, and I care about all of these things on my laptop. I used my trackpad to click reply on this webpage, that's not a rare thing! If you ever have a meeting where multiple people huddle around a laptop, that uses speakers, webcam, and microphone, and the MacBook does so much better in that scenario. We have interrupted meetings to swap from a Framework 16 (old CTO's laptop) to my MacBook Pro because participants simply couldn't hear those of us slightly further away from the laptop! Zonal dimming is an advantage whenever you have black areas on the screen, and good fan tuning is an advantage if you want to compile some changes during a meeting without thinking "this task will turn my laptop into a jet engine and distract everyone else". If you don't care about these things, then you can find way cheaper devices than the Framework that are cost competitive on core specs. Let's get some Framework pricing as a datum, Framework will sell me the AI 350 and 2.8K display for $1939CAD, it has no RAM, no SSD, no charger, no ports... if I add 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD, charger, and 2xUSB-C, 1xHDMI, 1xUSB-A, we're looking at $2403CAD. [...] I can buy four of these laptops for the price of the Framework and still have some cash left over! If I need more RAM I'm sure I can find a similarly cheapo laptop with a SODIMM by actually googling myself. [...] Higher-end X1 Carbons have haptic trackpads at the same price point as Framework is offering diving boards. Across the market there are OLEDs for less money than Framework is charging for LCDs. Personally, I don't care about trackpad alone so
[...] I've ordered a Framework 16, though. [...] Design a low-profile mechanical keyboard, I don't care for your excuses. Give us proper touchpad options with buttons. Keyboard modules with scroll wheels and panning for CAD. [...]
One of the issues with the 16 is it’s just a way worse value proposition than the 13. [...] I’d even go as far as calling it a good deal, cheap even, especially if you DIY and bring your own memory and storage. [...] I think the problem is that once you get into that big laptop territory people start wanting more specific use cases like gaming or other performance metrics. There has to be a reason to want a big bulky laptop. [...] I also find that there’s a lot more PC competition in the 15-16” screen sizes. [...] The Framework 16” is somewhat worse packaging than its competitors. [...]
The Framework 16 weights about 2.2 kg according to my kitchen scale. [...] That may not seem like a big difference, but the extra kilogram makes carrying around the Framework 16 more difficult. In particular, I don't feel comfortable carrying it with just one hand while this isn't a problem with the X1. [...] Modular ports Like the keyboard area the design is a bit janky though, with visible lines/space between the adapters and the case, though this at least is something you won't notice unless you're explicitly looking for it. Not sure how you can make things like this not to have any lines for what its worth. [...]
DEVICE: Framework 16 Ryzen™ 7 7840HS INCLUDED PARTS: RAM: 96GB Crucial 5600 RAM (2 x 48GB) Storage: 1TB, 2230 SSD from an OLED Surface Pro 11 - Fedora 2TB, 2280, Samsung 990 Pro - Windows 11 Pro Keyboards: RGB Clear ANSI (1st Gen) This has some labels attached so it’s easier to use, but they can easily be peeled off if desired RGB Black ANSI (black, 3rd party) Numpad RGB Macropad Module (1st Gen) Expansion Modules: 2x thunderbolt/USB-C (Red) HDMI (3rd Gen) SD Card Reader DisplayPort (2nd Gen) USB-A (2nd Gen) USB-A (3rd Party, Community Project) Other: Spacer: Gray 165W Dell USB-C Charging Adaptor/Cable Framework Screwdriver Windows 11 Pro Fedora Spare AMD RZ616 (since I upgraded it to the AMD RZ717) Original Purchase Date: September 2024 Region/Country: US - Midwest Price (and accepted payment methods) : $2850 OBO Cash or possibly Bank Transfer. The Brand-New, Retail Price would be over $4000 (and this is with slower SSDs, no power supply, OS, etc!) Shipment option/shipment price: Local Pickup, maybe shipping Updated price is $2600 Condition Details: SSD Health: Good Battery Health: 86% Pictures & Video of the actual laptop/parts: Full View with Both1920×1440 707 KB Video of the laptop Specs & Price2022×2485 337 KB 990 Pro 2TB Health1040×823 83.6 KB 96GB RAM1920×1932 619 KB Black Keyboard1920×1440 729 KB Full View, Black1920×1440 478 KB Clear, Lights On1920×1440 574 KB Clear, lights off1920×1440 469 KB IMG02921920×1440 694 KB IMG02901920×1440 659 KB IMG02881920×1440 639 KB Why I’m selling: Being supplied a work laptop, so as much as I love my Framework 16, I no longer need a secondary laptop. [...] Happy to answer any questions or send further photos/videos, even discuss things on call to show out the system! [...]
Have you read my message here: FW16 7040 BIOS 4.03 - CPU power locked at 35W (45W with 240w PSU) max when dGPU is asleep · Issue 146 · FrameworkComputer/SoftwareFirmwareIssueTracker · GitHub Specifically this: When the dGPU turns on, STT LIMIT dGPU is set to 51°C (ot 57°C depending on the adapter, …, anyway), which clears the overheating signal as STT VALUE dGPU becomes lower than STT LIMIT dGPU, so the AMD SMU is able to rise the STAPM LIMIT to reach the rated 54W for the APU. To test if i could replicate even when the dGPU is off, I first reverted back to default bios settings (to be sure that there were no interference from my specific settings), then i launched a CPU+iGPU stress test and compared the APU power limit/consumption while STT LIMIT dGPU is set to the default 0°C VS 51°C via ryzenadj, and the results are pretty clear: STT LIMIT dGPU == 0°C = 35W VS STT LIMIT dGPU == 51°C = 54W
I am aware that most people don't have any idea of what "display calibration" is actually about (which is primarily about display profiling), but the observation that the "The colors of the display are overly saturated, with reds in particular looking more intense than they should." seems to be to be a fundamental misunderstanding of what is happening here. The framework 16 has a screen that is more capable of displaying reds than either of your two comparison screens (X1 Carbon 2019 seems to have a sub-sRGB gamut, while the Eizo CS2740 seems to be designed to match AdobeRGB [which has a red primary that matches sRGB]). [...] In terms of red saturation, the framework monitor is literally displaying superiority over the other two by demonstrating the capability to show more colours, yet it is being framed in a negative light here as being something that is "over saturated". The responsibility to dictate how much of the display's capabilities (i.e. red saturation) to use to lies squarely in the software (and their associated colour-management systems), which require a display profile (ICC) that accurately models the display's capabilities (profiling), and thus allows colour-managed applications to appropriately scale their source colourspace values into the target display colourspace values. These display profiles are generated via colorimeters or spectrophotometers using specialized software. Once an appropriate profile is loaded (for each screen), the output image should look identical on all screens that are capable of displaying the colours in the image (e.g. in an sRGB case, all three screens show show the same image, save for maybe the X1 Carbon being slightly desaturated). Correspondingly, attempting to display an image with a DCI-P3 space (that fully utilizes that space) will cause undersaturation on both your X1 Carbon and the Eizo CS2740 (
Framework has not only provided us with a Framework Laptop 16 to help us optimize our kernel and packages on modern hardware, but they have also committed to a $250 monthly donation. I'm gonna guess a laptop and a few thousand dollars (over years) isn't exactly breaking the bank.
Since it's been a little over a year since I got my Framework Laptop 16 and have been using Fedora Linux on there, I published a new blog post with my thoughts on the laptop and my experience has been daily driving Fedora for a year. Fedora Linux KDEPlasma FrameworkLaptop
Today marks 5 months since I switched from macOS to Fedora Linux as my daily driver, using the same install of the KDE spin of Fedora (started at 40 and upgraded to 41) on the Framework Laptop 16.
From the announcement email: We were the first laptop maker to ship a USB-C 180W adapter with the original Framework Laptop 16, and somehow nearly two years later, we may be the first to ship with 240W too! [...] When I first discovered that heavy gaming drains the battery in the FW16 I went out to search for a more powerful USB-C power supply. [...]
Same, I have an all AMD framework laptop 16 with the gaming GPU, and running fedora, and it has been rock solid. I really couldn't ask for more
I have a 12 and the screen is fine. It's no OLED but I have no complaints for what it is. I love it as a secondary tablet-laptop for drawing and reading comics (primary laptop is a Framework 16 which I'm also in love with for Unity3D game dev and similar tasks, that one needs Windows for Visual Studio but I'm enjoying Gentoo on the 12)
[...] But if the 5x3 or something similar with a smaller number of keys is produced, those who use a 6x4 or larger layout (such as the layout that I have used on my Dygma Defy, which has columns of 5 keys) will be much more likely to not buy it because our keymaps would not fit with the smaller number of keys. Also, if you could fit a fourth thumb key on each side, and a small trackpad in between the two halves, that would be great!!!
Hello i have a framework 16 AMD7040 with the 7700s gpu on Windows 11 I dont know when it started but i noticed that my computer doesn’t detect my gpu. [...] I bought it pre-built and i use it at school almost every day. I really don’t know if something broke down on my computer or the drivers are tweaking. I : updated my drivers Updated my bios Removed and put back on the gpu And still no gpu showing up. [...]
[...] One got a mostly-compatible motherboard upgrade that required grinding down a couple bits on the frame to make it fit, and I got to have a 4:3 IPS display for a bit longer. [...] There's likely a Framework 16 in my future eventually.
Got tired of my Windows desktop crashing on me, so I bought a Framework Laptop 16 and installed Kubuntu on it. Haven’t looked back. Next step: rebuild the desktop into a Linux server.
i love my framework laptop 16 and i bought it because it more or less has the perfect feature set for what i want but part of me wishes i could daily drive an old thinkpad
It's now been two weeks since I got my Framework Laptop 16 and started using it as my personal daily driver laptop. I published a blog post going over some of the reasons why I chose the Framework laptop and some of my thoughts on it so far. Laptop Fedora Linux FrameworkLaptop
[...] Looking for some help developing a Framework 16 to MXM gpu adapter. [...] I don’t actually have access to a Framework 16 to test this on, but it feels like something that could lay the foundation for improvments. [...]
Definitely needs a chassis update. I’ve had frequent issues with picking up the laptop by one corner causing trackpad clicks, or interruption of connection to the trackpad. I’m probably going to try replacing the trackpad with the new one-piece unit, so maybe that will help. [...]
The Framework 16 seems like a pretty unappealing device to me due to the bulk and cost, which is unfortunate. [...] Thunderbolt is just too slow. Im in a frustrating situation now where my laptop has a way faster CPU than my desktop, and my desktop has a way faster GPU than the laptop. I really wish I could use my big fancy GPU with my laptop without a massive performance loss.
yes it would, that is what i am trying to accomplish here. I have a 4090 in my main rig and a 4070tis but whenever my main rig is unavailable i want to still game but the laptop is too loud with rx7700s and it drain battery bc 180w charger is not powerfull enough
I'm still bullish on Framework but the quality control issues I have seen from the Framework 16 are unacceptable for a device that cost as much as it does. They have also reused elements from the older Framework laptops that they should not have, namely the smaller keyboard and the smaller trackpad. I hope they pull it together because I want them to succeed.
Framework Laptop 16 long-term: how it holds up
When problems show up
- Controls & inputtypically around 2 years · 2 reports
- Battery & chargingtypically around 2 years · 2 reports
- Soundtypically around 2.8 years · 2 reports
The claims, and the evidence
What the brand claims
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What owners report
“[...] 470 commits later I'm running 7 machines off this config — my Framework 16 dev workstation, a ThinkPad, and a bunch of business laptops for people who've never opened a terminal. [...] I use it for overnight refactoring. Custom NixOS installer ISOs — I ship a USB stick to someone, they plug it in, and they get a working system with Claude Code pre-configured as their "sysadmin." They ask Claude to install software, Claude edits the config, they rebuild. [...]”
after 6 monthsView on Hacker News“[...] Bought this Framework 16 laptop less than a year ago so I haven't upgraded anything yet. But if I decide I want a GPU (I don't play games on this laptop so I bought it GPU-less) I can add one. If they come out with a new motherboard that I decide is worth buying, I can swap it out and keep the rest of the laptop. [...] I bought a second USB-A slot and an Ethernet slot, so if I need two USB-A ports or if I need to plug into Ethernet, I can just slide the physical locking tab on the appropriate side of the laptop, slide out one of the slots, and slide in the Ethernet or USB-A slot. [...]”
after 1 yearView on Hacker News“Yup, I’m on my second RGB ANSI on my Framework 16 and the [D] key just started getting spotty again, not even had the laptop for a year. I otherwise really like it, just wish there was a filter on the intake and that the keyboards worked reliably. [...] So I don’t think it’s just something like stick drift where the graphite starts to migrate after heavy use. [...] I don’t know if they’re stuck with a bad script or not human, but not kidding, the last time I had to prove the key was broken outside of Win10 because it’s not supported. [...]”
after 1 yearView on the forum“I'm torn on your take, because on one hand I agree wholeheartedly (I own a Framework 13, and considered the repairability to be a part of the price, and a little added bulk to be a trade off I was comfortable with), but on the other, I think there's just some entirely-reasonable human psychology at work here that expects a €2k laptop to be premium in fit, finish, and polish. But I do think Framework still has a ways to go when it comes to polish and build quality. I've had my 13 since August 2022, and had a ton of problems with it (thermal issues) that were only resolved nearly two years later, after lots of frustrating back-and-forth with support. [...] And frankly, based on the author's description of the Framework 16, it sounds like the 16 is not even up to the 13's level of polish. [0] Well, we'll see what DRAM prices look like next year, as I have 64GB of DDR4 in my current laptop, and that same amount of DDR5 is not something I'd want to pay for right now.”
after 4 yearsView on Hacker News
Common Framework Laptop 16 problems
Problems most owners who mention them agree on, plus ones owners are split on.
- Controls & input9 owners report this (4 disagree)View on Hacker News
“The face plate for the touchpad isn't flush with the faceplate with the side panels, which is sort of annoying.”
- Build & durability6 owners report this (1 disagree)View on the forum
“I really don’t know if something broke down on my computer or the drivers are tweaking.”
- Software & AI4 owners report thisView on the forum
“I can’t seem to update the keyboard firmware.”
- Battery & chargingOwners split: 6 complain, 4 happyView on the forum
“Don’t like having to wait, of course – I’ve wanted a larger battery since I first bought it – but I think I can manage.”
- Sound4 owners report this (1 disagree)View on Hacker News
“The only complaints here that I really share are the jankiness of the spacers (a little jarring at first, but now I’m used to it), and the speakers really are noticeably worse than any of my other devices.”
- PerformanceOwners split: 3 complain, 2 happyView on Hacker News
“You may have a reasonably good 48gb chunk assigned to the GPU, but that DDR5 is 5-10 times slower than GDDR/HBM and the GPU itself isn't stellar.”