Framework Laptop 13

I have owned a Gen 12 model of the Framework 13 for over 2 years. Regarding the battery - yes, the performance isn't great. [...] Go ahead and abuse the battery with 100% charging. Remember the battery can be replaced in less than 10 minutes and at $69 (US) it's pretty darn affordable. I just replaced my original 56wH battery with Framework's better 61wH battery. The replacement process was super easy and quick. So I say charge up that sucker to 100% This isn't an Apple Macbook Air where the battery replacement requires an Apple tech and a boatload of money.

[...] The M1 MacBook systems got double the battery life of competitors, now 5 years later, Apple systems are at best getting 10% better battery life than competitors, and some systems like the XPS 14 have Apple beat entirely. [...] MacBooks have a brightness slider, too. You aren’t getting anywhere close to 20 hours on a MacBook without turning the screen brightness down. [...] The point is that the new framework 13 Pro laptop isn’t a 5-7 hour battery life experience like the previous models. [...]

I'll take this opportunity to report on my Framework Laptop 13 experience. I've had it for over a year. [...] One USB C module doesn't accept a power charge reliably. It can overheat and shutdown. If the case flexes a little the trackpad stops responding - it needs to be on a flat surface. Power brick died. [...]

[...] However, for my personal equipment, it’s really difficult for me to stomach paying Apple’s inflated prices for RAM upgrades beyond their defaults (8GB won’t cut it for my workloads, and even 16GB sometimes feels cramped), and because the RAM is soldered, I have no choice but to either accept the default or to pay inflated prices for more RAM. Thus after 16 years of buying Macs for home use, I switched away from the Mac a few years ago; I have a Ryzen 9 build as my daily-driving desktop and a Framework 13 as my laptop. [...]

[...] A year later the screen on the dell is separating from weakening adhesive. The Asus Zenbook I got as a possible replacement/backup has random no start issues (known issue with BIOS) as well as non-existent Linux support. [...] For example my framework speaker had some rattle. I thought it was broken/blown until I found this post . [...] Not a blown speaker after all. I'm a broke college student taking on loads of debt (thanks USA) but will be reordering a framework for piece of mind. [...]

Check out their replacement CPU prices, and you will realise there is a high cost to upgradeability. [...] So put that in your OG Framework 13 is costing you more than the initial purchase price! [...] The current range is overpriced ultrabooks missing the latest 2.8K OLED 120Hz display like the ASUS Zenbook 14X with 16GB/512GB for under $1000. You can get cheaper RAM upgrades, but 16GB is enough for 99% of ultrabook users. [...] Too early to diss this concept, and I assume this is more a lifestyle choice based on sound principles rather than the value option. [...] the Framework 13-inch i7/1370p/32GB is £2100 in the UK!!! [...]

[...] I’ve had the Framework Laptop 13 (13th generation) I5 1340P with 32 GB of DDR4 RAM since 2023, after coming from a system76 lemur pro that had two battery failures and a motherboard failure in two years. [...] I have peace of mind that if I drop it or a battery dies or the speakers wear out, I don’t have to buy a whole new machine, and this can be the final laptop I buy - a Theseus’ ship of laptops. I’ve loved the new products Framework is releasing and I kept hoping for a mainboard that I could upgrade to that would increase my battery life, which is generally around 4 hours of internet browsing in Ubuntu. I’ve also noticed that the fans are very loud on my current machine, especially when I play GeForce Now games or join zoom calls, and that I can’t quite get the monitor resolution right - it’s either too large (where I can only fit a small amount of text on the screen) or much too small (where I have to squint and get within a foot of the monitor to view the smallest text). I’ve tried adjusting scaling and zoom, and for the most part I’ve made do (most of my work is on an external monitor anyway), but whenever I use a different laptop monitor it’s always a relief, so I don’t think it’s my eyes. When the framework 13 Pro came out, it was everything I’d been wishing for - vastly upgraded battery life (which hopefully means quieter fans) and upgraded monitor resolution (for hopefully easier to read text). The problem is that in order to take advantage of that improved battery life and monitor resolution, I’d need to change out my mainboard, my RAM, and my monitor. [...]

[...] Fedora 44 Workstation Gnome 50 updated yesterday. [...] Which Framework Laptop 13 model are you using? (AMD Ryzen™ AI 300 Series, AMD Ryzen™ 7040 Series, Intel® Core™ Ultra Series 1, 13th Gen Intel® Core™ , 12th Gen Intel® Core™, 11th Gen Intel® Core™) Framework Laptop 13 Pro (Batch 7) Version: AMD Ryzen AI 7 350 w/ Radeon 860M The problem I’m having is that ever so often the system just freezes. [...] The only way out is to hold down the power button for (approx) 10 seconds, and the power on again. How do I track the problem if the computer freezes? [...]

[...] I purchased the first generation of the Framework 13 AMD laptops And it's been my personal machine ever since. [...] The battery life is the biggest negative compared to a MacBook, but that seems to be better now (though I doubt it, or anyone, can compete with the power/performance that Apple is putting out now). [...]

[...] On the flip-side, if you eschew Microsoft products completely, I've had a really good experience (for the most part) using Secure Boot with custom keys on Linux on my Framework 13 AMD laptop. I am using Arch, and have it setup to build UKIs that are signed automatically via a post-build hook using sbctl and EFI booting using systemd-boot. [...]

[...] It turned out the hard disk and the CD-ROM drive didn’t work, and its internal battery ran out; replacing them was easy. [...] I also have a “trash can” Mac Pro that was my daily driver from 2017 (when I purchased a refurbished model) to 2022 when I switched to a Ryzen 9 build. [...] I miss the days of user-serviceable Macs, which is why I switched back to PCs after using Macs as daily drivers since I bought an Intel Core Duo MacBook in 2006. I now use a Ryzen 9 build at home and a Framework 13 laptop when I’m away from home. [...]

[...] There are some incredibly good PC laptops out there with the same kinds of features of MacBook Pros and more: long battery life, haptic trackpad, aluminum CNC build, long sleep battery life, etc. [...] I’m a very happy with my Framework 13 Pro.

[...] So far I've been happy running Linux with refurb Dell laptops and been having zero issues so far with Xubuntu as my daily driver. [...]

I managed to convince my brother to get a framework laptop 13 and he loves it. Compared to his old laptop its an upgrade in every possible way, he loves the sturdy metal construction and the better screen and keyboard. [...] Its even cooler in my opinion because of all the additional modularity and power that it provides, however it might be a bit bulky and expensive for some people. The modular keyboard deck that allows for numpads, extra ports, and the expansion bay module slot in the back of the device are certainly useful additions though. With the GPU module, you get a total of 7 ports (the GPU module has an additional USB-C port on the back that supports dedicated display output). [...] Also the speakers and screen on the 16 are definitely a lot better, with a good EQ profile on Realtek audio console, you end up with something that sounds about as good as proper desktop speakers. And it covers pretty much everything except sub-bass (as laws of physics still apply.) Interesting you mention FXsound as well, I set up my brothers laptop with FXsound to improve the sound quality of his framework 13. In my opinion the best way to adjust the sound would be according to the frequency response graphs on the RTINGS website (I used the frequency response graphs to tune both laptops.)

I've had the Framework 13 for 5 years and just upgraded it to the newest chassis/display/trackpad. [...] Seriously, I expected the build quality to be meh when I first got it and it was great then, but now... [...]

I have the old Framework 13 for work (software dev), with Windows 11 and a beefed up 2x32GB RAM and I couldn’t be happier. [...]

Framework Laptop 13, Gen 11, Ubuntu 23.04, 64 bit, Gnome 44.1, Firmware 3.10 Some of my keyboard keys have either stopped working or are working intermittent. [...] I have opened the laptop and re-seated the keyboard connector but no joy. I have resorted to the on-screen keyboard to type this request for help. Is there anything I can do short of replacing the keyboard?

I own a framework laptop 13 and it has been extremely portable and useful; I mostly use it as a school laptop and write code on it. The keyboard is decent, and it is comfortable enough for most things I do. I don’t know about streaming, however.

I'm conflicted, I've recently upgraded to the AMD mainboard in my Framework 13 (luckily right before ramageddon), but the new case, battery, screen, and input upgrades are super compelling. Having to get the new Intel mainboard with the LPCAMM2 memory and new frame to see the battery improvements is why I'm hesitating to pre-order. [...] I'm definitely picking up their keyboard/touchpad combo when that's up for pre-order.

I'm a professional programmer, purchased a first gen framework 13, and it's been by far the best laptop I've ever purchased. I have since replaced hinge, and the bezel and that's been it. [...] Over time it's performed better, the battery life and fan noise have improved just due to software and driver updates. Never had any issues with hardware, drivers, or decaying battery life/performance that I've had with previous mac books and similarly sized windows laptops. And I'm sure when I do I can just replace the battery, it's a really nice feeling. [...]

[...] The price is a bit higher and supply issues are there, but its understandable. [...] Every single laptop I owned required some kind of repairs in the middle of its lifecycle. After my experiences I refuse to buy any glued laptop without option to swap hard drive and battery without repair show.

There's little, if any documentation I can find on RDNA 3 (in my case, the 780M Phoenix iGPU in my 7840U Framework Laptop 13") OpenGL performance. Reason being my laptop has a 3:2 display, so does the GBA. [...]

[...] It's a great user experience, the keyboard is nice, the colors and accurate and virbrant, the battery life is good, and I think the monitor size is perfect for me. Before I got framework and was searching for a laptop, I really couldn't find one that didn't have a big con: short battery life, lack of ports, all plastic build. So happy with my laptop

[...] The performance of the 13 is fine, fans are a little eager to come on, battery life is so-so (definitely a first-gen product!) but performance for me is pretty good. With the latest bigger battery and mainboard I'm hearing good things about the speed and battery life. Looks like the Framework laptop and company is growing nicely into it's own skin, takes a while to optimise the design and build momentum, but I'm very happy with the product and will definitely buy from them in the future.

Hi Dan, The Framework Laptop 13 Pro is available with the Intel Ultra 3 series and AMD AI 300 series chips though there still is the availability of the Framework Laptop 13 (before the Pro model was created) with the AMD AI 300 series chips. Both are very capable platforms and others have touted the newest benefits of the battery life on the latest Intel Pro board which is a big jump since there were no Ultra 200 boards offered by Framework. [...] If the newest display with touch, and extra battery life are not critical the regular Laptop 13 uses the same boards, plus the AMD boards uses memory people can actually purchase instead of the nearly impossible to find LPCAMM2 modules on the Intel board. [...]

Only 2 real gripes with my Framework Laptop 13. The touchpad is not the best or most precise out there. The display...oh god the GHOSTING. Even slow paced games and just regular old videos are a blurry mess. Otherwise it's a fantastic little daily driver, and should be for many years to come.

Highlights Added support for Framework Laptop 13 Pro features - Enabled compatibility for the haptic touchpad, touch panel, and 74W battery. Updated the audio verb table to support the new speakers in the Framework Laptop 13 Pro chassis. Updated AMD PhoenixPI-FP8-FP71.2.0.0f. Fixed an issue where the system was unable to boot from partially locked self-encrypting drives (SEDs) Fixed an issue where the Battery Extender status was reported incorrectly following a reboot, hibernation, or shutdown after the timer had expired. [...] Fixed an issue where system audio volume was lower on 3.19 beta. Security Fixed - CVE-2025-54502, CVE-2025-29949, CVE-2025-0040, CVE-2024-36355, CVE-2024-36310 Note: Once you update to 3.20, you can only downgrade to 3.06 or above. [...] Subscribing to release notifications If you want to subscribe to new release notifications you can now opt in through this link to receive an email when we release a new BIOS or driver update for your Framework Laptop. [...] If you are updating a system in standalone mode, please pay careful attention to the standalone update process below. Please note that you must update with a charger attached. Linux/LVFS Please note that you must update with a charger attached, then run: fwupdmgr refresh --force then fwupdmgr get-updates then fwupdmgr update Please note that you must update with a charger attached. LVFS may not update if the battery is 100% charged. LVFS uses the battery status to determine if it i

[...] I have an AMD Framework 13 that had a fan bearing fail, which caused the fan to scream and spin up/down erratically. I had a long back-and-forth with Framwework support where they told me what I already knew (the fan bearing failed and the fan needed replacing) and that it was out of warranty (yeah nah, not in Australia). [...]

As a Framework 13 7840U owner, I could not be happier with my purchase. I've used Dell XPS, Macbook Pro, Lenovo, and more. [...] Connected to a 5k display, my gaming choices were more limited, but it really did play most of the games I threw at it, all be it at lower settings. [...] Their middle range cards are just meh right now and overpriced. [...]

My workplace gave me a brand-new Lenovo P16s worth $2800. I basically hate it and would much rather prefer using my 3 year old Framework 13. The Lenovo is to heavy and bulky, has shoddy Linux support. It also freezes and BSOD's multiple times a week on Windows. On Linux it freezes when the CPU is under max load. My Framework is light and compact, has perfect Linux support, and operates stable without any crashes or freezes.

[...] I bought a Framework 13 (non-Pro) with the intent of slowly upgrading it to the Pro. [...] But it didn't really sink in until I got the display that the Pro ships with, the nice anti-glare 2.2K touch panel that you reviewed, in the mail and hooked it up to my otherwise entirely not-worth-the-price Framework 13. [...] I plan to keep this laptop until I've ship-of-Theseus'd it into a Framework 13 Pro, and beyond that into whatever upgrades they eventually come out with for that thing, and it feels good. [...] Did you know you can get experimental RISC-V motherboards for the Framework 13? [...] I hope that eventually there will be e-ink displays made for it as well. Is it worth the price of entry? [...]

[...] I'm not editing video, just photo's and I have children who love to touch my laptop with wet, greasy hands or bang other objects on it. [...]

llama.cpp works pretty well for me on the Framework 13 laptop, but the current era of "move fast, break things, rarely fix" (sorry, that's how it feels), bites here quite a bit. Two examples: - Someone's few lines change broke the native (ROCm) support for the AMD GPU inside Framework (and other integrated systems), and any rollback or proper fix is pending for almost a month. Fortunately there's workaround (switching to Vulkan rather than ROCm devices), but both the way the bug was introduced and the way it is not fixed just doesn't give much confidencen - LM Studio is using llama.cpp internally for GGUF, they ship their own build with their closed source system as "runtimes". [...]

NOTE: I only use Windows 11 on my Laptop 13. [...] I used the Windows .exe updater. There could do to be a better warning that the reboot does not signal that the process is complete and the delay before the second reboot was also rather longer than I expected, but probably only 15 seconds or so. [...] The sound level from the internal speakers seems a lot quieter with this BIOS. [...] Maybe the Realtek loudness equalisation feature is changed (or broken) in BIOS 3.19? I’m sure turning on loudness equalisation used to make the speakers a lot louder, but now it only makes a slight difference. Anyway something to do with the speakers has definitely changed, but at this stage I’m thinking it’s just something I’ll need to get used to, rather than a problem I have to learn to live with if I stay on BIOS 3.19. [...]

[...] I just replaced my Framework 13’s bottom cover due to it denting from a mild drop, so I am excited to see that Framework is moving towards fully CNC Aluminium. I am not bummed out that the Framework 13 Pro’s bottom cover is different from the old bottom cover, nor that the new bottom cover needs the new input module. I think that, despite the additional cost of going to a full Pro build instead of a hybride (where you just upgrade the mainboard), the cost saving is still there as you are no longer buying a new laptop. And, new laptops are super expensive now a days, especially ones that much Framework spec. [...] Plus, I don’t know if it’s just because of the ram apocolypse or because of the novel form factor, but the LPCAMM2 ram is expensive (probably is the former tbh). Honestly, I feel like anybody with a Ryzen AI 300 series Framework rn would benefit most from a better battery and better input module. For me, my ideal upgrade (if I didn’t care about wasting technology), would be the mid-tier intel core ultra series 3 with the 12 core GPU and new chasis+battery+input module. I think the Ryzen AI 300 are still competitive with the new Intel Core Ultra Series 3, except for battery life and GPU performance. Cause, holy balls, AMD has dropped the ball on GPU performance for the past three generations of mobile Ryzen chips.

I think the bigger problem is Framework doesn't actually offer as much in upgradeability as it sounds. [..,] Unofficially, many of the laptops I've had I've been able to upgrade even the screen on as well. The Framework's screen is officially upgradeable, though, and I see that as a strength: while you or I might not blink at doing an unofficial screen replacement for some other laptop, I'm sure most people would be afraid to attempt something like that. I've also (officially) replaced the webcam (new one is definitely better) and speakers (new ones are better but still meh). When my battery starts to go, I'll replace it with the higher-capacity battery that's available now. So it's definitely quite a bit more than just RAM, SSD, Wi-Fi. The value prop for replacing the mainboard+CPU while keeping the same generation RAM and SSD is really not that high in terms of upgradeability I agree on the RAM: I have a Framework 13, and my next mainboard upgrade will require new RAM (which is of course crazy expensive right now), as my current board uses DDR4. [...] you can place your port layouts in any order you want, you can customize the keyboard style and layout, Right, agreed: I have not changed the layout of my ports in more than a year at this point, and I never changed the keyboard style/layout. It was nice to be able to easily replace the keyboard when my original one developed issues a few months ago (not Framework's fault... [...]

I have a work-issued M3 MacBook Pro, and at home my daily drivers are a Ryzen 9 3900 PC (still on Windows 10) and a Framework 13 laptop with a Ryzen 5 7640U running Windows 11. The hardware on my MacBook Pro is fantastic; I get amazing battery life that lasts far longer than my Framework 13, and the performance is excellent. I also love my MacBook Pro's build quality. However, the reason my personal laptop is a Framework 13 and not a MacBook Pro is because I value upgradability and user-servicability. [...]

I just got a Framework 13 AMD laptop with a 2k display and installed Debian 12.8 on it. [...] Notably the graphics don't freeze and crash, Audio doesn't have static, and palm detection works out of the box. [...] Up until now I've been holding out and using 1080p displays. [...]

I have bought two Framework 13 laptops, and have been happy with them overall. [...] I have had issues with drivers, and specifically had to reinstall windows to reflash firmware to get a new touch pad to work in linux. [...]

Ugh brain hurts but learning so much about NixOS. Have a 12th gen intel framework right now and trying to see just how far I can get since I can far more rapidly iterate and customize with Nix (I love arch but after a few months when I want to try something else reproducing it is to much of a pain.) I have a few full builds done now but I am trying to start down the path of customizing it to my framework and adding in all the security stuff I feel like no distro does right easily and reproducible (sane secure-boot enforcement & TPM2 backed full disk encryption). [...]

[...] Little firmware-ish things were so glitchy and sluggish. [...] (Don't get a MacBook Neo, too many compromises including poor battery life, a used Air is much better, and if you use more than one external monitor use caution on what model/CPU you choose). [...] You've only got 2 more years left until you start losing security updates anyway. The other machine I highly recommend is Linux/Framework 13 Pro with the Intel Core Ultra Series 3, although that's a whole different price class, and obviously not everyone can make that move in terms of software compatibility.

[...] In the age of expensive storage, it has just enough SSD space for VMs and containers. [...] Whenever I upgrade my Framework 13 mainboard, I'll probably use the old one as a homelab instead of the Pis. [...]

[...] I am an engineer/DIYer and I regularly have my laptop out on site with sparks flying, sawdust all over the keyboard, ocational airborne bits bouncing off it etc (Even had it covered in ice from freezing evening dew a couple times).. this is an abuse of the hardware for sure but I CAN do this because I know a new keyboard only takes a few minutes and £30, with a macbook you CAN'T do this because you would wet yourself instantly. So this amounts to EXTRA FUNCTIONALITY the macbook or competitors can not perform, which for me is more inconvenient than something like shorter battery life My use case is at the more extreme end but I imagine there are plenty of use cases in between this and sterile controlled coding table at home on the upgradeability front, it is narrow sighted that £700 for a new mother board keeps getting mentioned, I have had the 12th gen intel from when it was first available. [...] Can you get a solid 1 year old hardware (NEW, because all of FW peripheries are trivial and cheap to replace so you aren't worried about worn out charging port etc.. [...] and that to me is the value

I have just received my framework 13 pro and am very pleased with it. [...] Is there any way I can fix this (maybe a shortcut key to refresh the usb list or something).

[...] Intel Panther lake beats the M5 in GPU and multi-core performance, and is only behind in single core (and not by much). Panther Lake is also on some Windows laptops that trounce MacBook battery life (e.g., Framework 13 Pro according to Just Josh Tech medium-brightness productivity benchmarking). The Snapdragon X2 Elite beats the M5 multi-core performance (the HP Omnibook Ultra 14 is priced identically spec-for-spec with the MacBook Pro with M5). [...]

I've had the laptop 16 for about 2 years now and I love this thing so much. Probably my favourite buy in the last 5 years or so.

[...] (by the way the laptop was a Framework 13 AMD, curious if others experienced the same. [...]

[...] I've upgraded my Framework 13 a bunch already since I bought it in 2022, and will hopefully continue to do so for years.

[...] My current laptop is a Framework 13 (from 2022) that has already seen some upgrades and repairs that wouldn't be possible on any of my old laptops. [...]

[...] The Framework 13" laptop has a 3:2 screen. [...] I think I would agree that I can see more code per screen. But on the occasion when I'm using another laptop, with a more standard 16:9 or 16:10 screen, it feels more "normal" somehow.