Framework Desktop

A vanishingly small number of people can or would want to go to the hardware expense of running something like GLM 5.3 Flash, much less something like K3. It's probably worth letting the user specify their actual costs in such a tool. I run a Framework Desktop 128GB that I bought before memory prices got crazy; the current retail price is almost double what I actually paid a year ago.

I have a shoebox sized computer (Framework Desktop) running Qwen 3.8 Flash Next. [...]

[...] I bought the Framework Desktop because of their supposedly very good Linux support compared to other manufacturers of similar machines. [...]

Thanks, you confirm my suspicions. Exactly the same thing is happening in FreeBSD: the OS shows the drives connected to USB4 ports as SCSI instead of NVME. The fact the two completely different operating system behave the same way logically indicates that there is the problem with the machine. Also, exactly the same kernels work perfectly fine for me on an Intel machine. I suspect that it is not a hardware problem, but a BIOS problem, because there are many other machines based on AMD Ryzen AI 300 Series that behave correctly. I also have an open ticket with Framework, hopefully they will fix the BIOS as this is a very bad advertisement for their product.

I have the Framework Desktop with 395+ 128gb RAM Today I am pretty happy with it. LLMs are finally good enough (fast enough with MTP+MoE, but also just much better in capability) that I can fit local ones into real tasks, and I've used image generation with invokeAI to do some genuinely useful things like rendering concepts for a renovation. [...] Up until end of Q1 2026 it felt like a total waste of money largely due to AMD. ROCm was unusable all of last yera; there was an entire month where PyTorch crashed just trying to multiply two matrices due to AMD Linux driver issues. [...] Prompt processing is definitely an issue, and diffusion is very very slow. [...] Realistically most files are not large enough that it's a huge deal, but it does make large-scale agentic work slow.

[...] You really think your 128GB Mac Studio or Framework desktop is going to be able to work in a real emergency situation? [...] Acquire and store little first aid booklets or manuals of common survival tasks in physical form (or hell, throw onto an eReader - infinitely more battery life than an LLM host in an emergency). This is one of those “sounds good in my head” projects that folks with emergency experience would bristle at. [...]

20260930 - Framework Desktop 192GB3742×2730 372 KB Today, we opened pre-orders for the new 192GB configuration of Framework Desktop with AMD’s new Ryzen AI Max PRO 495+ processor, enabling much larger and more capable AI models to run locally, entirely under your control. This config has both slightly higher clock speeds on the CPU and GPU and runs the LPDDR5X memory at slightly faster 8,533MT/s speeds, both of which enable an increase in AI inference speed over the original Framework Desktop. [...] Pricing and timing for further batches will depend on memory cost and supply updates from our suppliers. [...] We’re collaborating with Donato Capitella, a software engineer and open source AI content creator on guides and videos for how to get the best results and performance out of your Framework Desktop. He published a video and blog post today specifically on models and inference engines to use with the new 192GB Framework Desktop. [...] In the Framework Desktop, we interface that to two M.2 SSD slots, a x4 PCIe slot, two USB-C ports that support USB4, two USB-A ports, two front Expansion Card slots, two DisplayPort 2.1 ports, an HDMI 2.1 port, a 3.5mm audio jack, 5Gbps Ethernet, and an RZ717 Wi-Fi 7 module. [...]

I bought a Framework Desktop mainboard only, 128gb AMD 395+ setup, and put it in an existing case with PSU i had on hand. [...] The case and PSU/etc was probably $200 more (It's an overkill 850w SFX PSU and cheap but great ITX case from Deepcool). [...] Generic setup doc here: (not fully updated with GUFO): Key changes for other distros are how to load drivers/apps and get running. [...] Although I do see close to RTX 5070 performance in most games I've tested. [...]

I’ve posted this topic on Reddit before, but maybe I can get help here: Hi, so I’ve been suffering from this issue for a little while now (Framework Desktop), but not right from the beginning and I can’t for the life of me figure out what causes (caused?) it. [...] My framework desktop is mainboard-only, and I use a Corsair 450w SFX psu. [...] Through a lot of observation, I found out in which exact scenario it happens, and it’s as follows: When it happens: SPECIFICALLY, when I play a game that has some sort of scene where there are a lot of very quick FPS dips due to CPU processing, it may crash on one of these dips! Two games where I’ve observed this happen (and others never crash): Blue Protocol, when crafting, every time an item gets made, I have an invisible FPS dip, but Steam’s FPS graph shows that there is an instantaneous dip. [...] Only in moments of slight stutter. I want to underline that it only happens ever in those games that have high frequencies of stutter in a short amount of time. [...]

Own a framework desktop 128gb. [...] Haven't tested the new laguna S 2.1 yet. [...] Overall I think it's cheaper and better (intelligence wise) to get a $20 codex sub and always run gpt-5.6-luna than getting a desktop for local inference. [...]

[...] You can find examples of the performance difference with Panther Lake where there’s soldered and modular variants, noting, that’s not quad channel RAM or actively cooled. Using myself as an example, I wouldn’t have bought a Framework Desktop if it had modular RAM because the performance would’ve put it far below the competition. I would’ve compromised with repairability to get more performance.

I got my Framework Desktop with BIOS 3.04 and I stayed on that until I completed my Gentoo installation and got every device inside to work properly. Then I updated to BIOS 3.05 and after that the two USB4 ports on the back fail to operate properly: any USB4 / Thunderbolt SSD enclosure connected to them exposes the SDD as a SCSI attached device (/dev/sdX) instead of NVME device (/dev/nvmeXn1) as they did under BIOS 3.04. The Framework Desktop does not have a BIOS setting that controls PCIe tunneling and it seems that stopped working properly from 3.04 to 3.05. [...] So, now there is an huge drop of performance of my SSDs from 40Gbps to 10Gbps. [...] Update to my initial post: I tried all the USB4 / Thunderbolt enclosures that don’t work properly on the FD, and they do work correctly on another PC that I have, the SSDs being exposed as NVME devices.

ok desk revamp coming along nicely, I got a bigger pegboard with desk clamp mounts today + new mx keys mini kb, Mac mini and framework desktop are still way smaller than my ATX desktop (i love mechanical kbs but i have horrible wrist strain that for some reason is better with flatter keyboards)

[...] Version 03.05 Framework Desktop model: AMD Ryzen AI Max 300 Series with AMD RYZEN AI MAX+ 395 w/ Radeon™ 8060S × 32 Wifi card: MEDIATEK Corp. MT7925 (RZ717) Wi-Fi 7 160MHz I’ve been on Fedora 44 since the release but the wifi is not working anymore. [...] I’ve already tried: Install the Community MT7925 DKMS Driver Disable WiFi Power Saving here: /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/power-saving.conf sudo iw reg set FR (I’m french and it was set to 00) Please help

This. I bought Framework Desktop in November 2025 with almost these exact specs for $2.5k

Wow the prices on these have really come up.. Got my Framework desktop mainboard (Just the motherboard + CPU + soldered 128gb RAM) in Dec 2025 for 1900 EUR

@atpfm seeing you boost folks for their before/after price hikes for Macs and decided to check out my Framework Desktop that I bought on 11/22/25 and use basically as a beefy “steam machine” in my living room: before - $2,323 with a WDBLACK SSD 2TB after - $4,403 with a Sandisk SN7100 2TB YIKES

I have a framework desktop w/ 128GB that I bought last Christmas and if I’m looking at it right it costs $2000 (CAD) more now because of the RAM shortage (and in any event is apparently out of stock). [...] One last thing, I assume this isn’t exclusive and there will be other builds with this same config same as current Strix Halo?

[...] Also I m not sure where you are getting the under 2k value. I bought a Framework desktop 128GB last year and my setup was around 2.7k. [...]

I'd love to see an easy guide to doing this with the Framework Desktop form factor. I didn't buy any of the silly little squares for the front of mine since I figured I could 3D print some later, but six months in still haven't gotten around to it.

[...] I built a Framework Desktop PC back in November. [...]

I just bought a Framework Desktop. Would have been nice to get it at the introductory price, or perhaps the new 192gb model refresh they’re now teasing, but I settled and got a 64 gb model. At the time, the 128’s price had already risen again, but the 64’s price was still at a lower price. 64 can still easily do a Qwen 4.8 model, so I’m relatively happy with my purchase… plus, it’s price change has caused it to quickly appreciate in value… so I could sell it if my situation ever turned dire lol

[...] My Framework Desktop, however has appreciated in value by 75% since I bought it. [...]

I have a framework desktop, but depending on your need, DGX spark might be better. [...] But framework desktop is a better general computer. [...]

[...] It’s the Framework Desktop. [...]

Likewise here, my setup costs 2k+ more eur as well. Given that memory bandwidth remains the same I don't think it's worth buying if you have the 1st gen framework desktop. Usecase caveats apply.

It’s a fantastic dev box i got the framework desktop and its awesome as a developer desktop

Replying to myself, seems this PR was merged into main and it the model does work with a Vulkan backend on my Framework desktop, I’m getting about 220 tok/s prompt processing and 21 tok/s output on the 4-bit quant. This is really a sweet spot imo on this machine between maximizing ram use and still having decent speed due to the expert size. This looks really promising.

My setup is sort of reversed. The powerful machine (framework desktop) is my headless AI machine and M1 mbp is my daily driver. Works well!

I'm running Lemonade on Nixos on my Framework Desktop. I had been trying other tools out before finding Lemonade, but Lemonade really made it plug-and-play.

I run Qwen 3.6 on my Framework Desktop 128GB, and it's very performant. I know Framework has had to raise the price since I preordered mine, but they're still well under half the cost of that Macbook.

I'm on 128GB ram strix halo, bought framework desktop for a few thousand CAD back when everyone was calling framework desktop overpriced

I have a Framework Desktop as primary PC (great cooling, beautiful case with handle) and the Bosgame M5 dedicated for AI use. I was also a bit wary about Bosgame but TBH they've been great and the machine is rock solid, if a little noisier than and not as pretty as the FD. You can just buy from them directly and be fine, best computer deal out there by a mile.

[...] You overpay for the screen and keyboard and battery and whatever, plus you get much worse thermal performance because of basic physics (area vs volume). My Framework Desktop has a Noctua cooler which works really well. [Tangent: all my life I've been downvoted into a smoking hole in the ground, particularly on reddit r/hardware, for questioning the wisdom of laptops for high performance computing, including gaming. [...]

I just started using this model on my Framework Desktop and it's very smart and fast.

I've just started using qwen3.6:35b a couple days ago running on my framework desktop and rather impressed. [...]

[...] But I've been trying to use Qwen 3.6 and Gemma 4 on my framework desktop mainboard (Strix Halo) as much as possible. [...]

My Framework Desktop with 128GB was about half that. I did luck out by buying before RAM prices went crazy, though. [...]

I have a Framework Desktop too and 20-25 t/s is a lot better than I was expecting for such a large dense model. I'll have to try it out tonight. Are you using llama.cpp?

I’ve got the Framework desktop with strix halo. You can reserve memory for the GPU, but it’s straightforward at least on Linux to have the GPU dynamically grab memory as needed. I’ve got my VRAM set to 512MB and regularly use 120GB+for AI stuff.

Not who you asked, but I've got a Framework desktop (strix halo) with 128GB RAM. [...] Qwen3.5-27b is a bit slower at about 24tok/sec but that's a dense model.

The Framework Desktop has a Ryzen 395 chip that is able to allocate memory to either the CPU or GPU. [...]

I run qwen3.5 122b on a Framework Desktop at 35/ts as a daily driver doing security and OS systems and software engineering. Never paid an LLM provider and I have no reason to ever start.

AI DISCOURSE O'CLOCK: I love technology, I try new tech out all the time just to try it, I got a Framework desktop with a bunch of RAM before prices went crazy to run local models to see how this whole LLM thing is and go back to play with it from time to time and I gotta say, I just don't see it...

I've been using Qwen3.8-27B locally and wow, this thing is VERY impressive. Started with the full BF16, but honestly it was too slow on my Framework Desktop, but the Q5 (MTP) version is just fast enough to be usable and has been more enjoyable then Sol or Opus 5. Probably not as effective for...

i got a framework desktop for running local qwen and deepseek, but then immediately filled it with other service VMs cuz it's such a nice little server now i need to get a minisforum or thinkstation just to free it up again ––

While it took some finagling, I was technically able to get Deepseek v4 Flash running on my framework desktop. Fun as a POC, but as it's slower and has a limited context window, it won't replace Qwen3.6 as my daily driver for local hosted models just yet. frameworkDesktop ollama lmstudio […]

i have used both to run thousands of microvms on a single framework desktop if you're interested in scale

I bought a framework desktop recently to play with open weight models locally, and the difference in how useful 6 months old models vs. 2 months old models are is quite stark.

Ive been using pi-agent a bunch with Qwen 3.6 31b a4b I think it is. Works really well, and fast t/s on my Framework Desktop with 128Gb. Qwen 3.6 27B is slower, but slightly better results. [...]